General Coronavirus (COVID-19) chat

[SpookyFrank]

Cheer up. It might mean that the collapse of capitalism has actually begun at last, just as most of us wanted.

I don't know about wanted, more like 'accepted was inevitable'. If capitalism did fall apart before it fucked the planet up completely, that might be advantageous. The collapse itself was never going to be a fun time though. More likely a humanitarian catastrophe beyond anything seen since the depopulation of the Americas.

 

[xes]

Gave 2 dust masks to the ladies in the bakery this morning. They gave me free food! Bartering has started

 

[FabricLiveBaby!]

Found out today that a husband's work colleague went into work THE DAY AFTER running a fever.

It's always the stupid fucking English in Krakow that fuck things up for everyone. Now I gotta not leave the house for two weeks after doing everything right. What an absolute cunt.

Then there's this bellend. Who my best friend here had the pleasure of living with last year. Proper nasty pick up artist type dude, shagging different women every day, sometimes 2 a day. Putting his used condoms in the kitchen bin so his conquests wouldn't get wind.

Anyway, he left Krakow after getting a reputation and moved to fucking Italy, and then as Italy went on lock down he decided that actually, he was very fucking special. To fucking special to be locked down and FLEW to Krakow to continue his pussy exploitation and then got locked down here.

Honestly. What is is about the culture that makes too many people so reckless and irresponsible? It's fucking embarrassing being associated with these types.

I'm so pissed off with them.

Harborough man trapped in Poland after country sealed its borders due to coronavirus

“I must be the unluckiest bloke in Europe," says Brad Williams who travelled from Italy - only to get stuck in Krakow.

www.harboroughmail.co.uk

 

[danny la rouge]

Shower of utter cunts. If you are looking for something to do, Britannia Hotels deserve your ire.

Coronavirus: Hotel made staff homeless in 'admin error'

More than a dozen staff at a Highland hotel were sacked and asked to leave staff accommodation.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[gentlegreen]

I wonder if constant bacterial infections are defence against viral ones.
No trace of the moderate bronchitis I had 2 weeks ago, just need to spit a couple of times a day ..but I'm moderately snotty again - not streaming or anything .. thinking about it I always have a fairly healthy mucus production in the winter - most days when cycling home when I stop at the lights half way I have to clear my nose - but watery ..

/TMI

 

[Steel Icarus]

I wonder if constant bacterial infections are defence against viral ones.
No trace of the moderate bronchitis I had 2 weeks ago, just need to spit a couple of times a day ..but I'm moderately snotty again - not streaming or anything .. thinking about it I always have a fairly healthy mucus production in the winter - most days when cycling home when I stop at the lights half way I have to clear my nose - but watery ..

/TMI

I've no idea but for some reason I've been quite scared of the idea of getting C19 while I've got this chesty cold. The three other humans in the house will be home for the foreseeable future from today and I'm (probably irrationally) terrified one of them is bringing the bug home with them.

 

[Mrs Miggins]

Found out today that a husband's work colleague went into work THE DAY AFTER running a fever.

It's always the stupid fucking English in Krakow that fuck things up for everyone. Now I gotta not leave the house for two weeks after doing everything right. What an absolute cunt.

Then there's this bellend. Who my best friend here had the pleasure of living with last year. Proper nasty pick up artist type dude, shagging different women every day, sometimes 2 a day. Putting his used condoms in the kitchen bin so his conquests wouldn't get wind.

Anyway, he left Krakow after getting a reputation and moved to fucking Italy, and then as Italy went on lock down he decided that actually, he was very fucking special. To fucking special to be locked down and FLEW to Krakow to continue his pussy exploitation and then got locked down here.

Honestly. What is is about the culture that makes too many people so reckless and irresponsible? It's fucking embarrassing being associated with these types.

I'm so pissed off with them.

Harborough man trapped in Poland after country sealed its borders due to coronavirus

“I must be the unluckiest bloke in Europe," says Brad Williams who travelled from Italy - only to get stuck in Krakow.

www.harboroughmail.co.uk

I think there is a strong streak of "I won't do as I'm told" in British culture. Even if what you're being told to do is the right thing to do.

 

[gentlegreen]

I've no idea but for some reason I've been quite scared of the idea of getting C19 while I've got this chesty cold. The three other humans in the house will be home for the foreseeable future from today and I'm (probably irrationally) terrified one of them is bringing the bug home with them.

Me too - it was the first time in decades probably that I had a whistly cough - not full-on flu, but bad enough - and I actually had the jab last November ..
I'm still in my late 50s for another month or so, and I'm only technically diabetic ... so no being sent home from work ...

If they discovered this thing was around last spring, I would have said maybe - but that was just 6 days of the craziest fever I ever had - of the "wouldn't crawl downstairs to pick up a £50 note variety ..."

 

[Steel Icarus]

I think there is a strong streak of "I won't do as I'm told" in British culture. Even if what you're being told to do is the right thing to do.

Yes. Saw Liz-across-the-road this morning, who had already been out shopping. She's late seventies with a heart condition. "I've lived through Asian flu, Hong Kong Flu, bird flu, swine flu and One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. And besides you can only die once!"

 

[gentlegreen]

I'm waiting for my 93 year old and rather infirm ex-neighbour to make her way to the shops, but she's now in the sheltered housing in the next street so they probably have the residents locked-in.... (she always has to get a taxi home -)

 

[Teaboy]

I think there is a strong streak of "I won't do as I'm told" in British culture. Even if what you're being told to do is the right thing to do.

Agreed. Its also the reason I wonder whether restrictions that have happened in places like China, Singapore and South Korea could ever be effectively implemented here?

For China's draconian surveillance state to enforce lockdown measures it was pretty straight forward. In S. Korea they seem to have a general culture of abiding by what government advises. Whereas in the UK I know a couple who are both well into the high risk group who are refusing to abide by any advice / instructions primarily because they come from Johnson who they hate with unbridled passion.

 

[8ball]

"I've lived through Asian flu, Hong Kong Flu, bird flu, swine flu and One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. And besides you can only die once!"

Yep, you can only die once. And if you're selfish enough you can take a few people with you.

 

[Steel Icarus]

I think what shouldn't be underestimated that for a lot of older people the prospect of staying in, possibly alone, for months is more terrifying than the chance they'll get a disease they don't understand and aren't afraid of.

 

[8ball]

I think what shouldn't be underestimated that for a lot of older people the prospect of staying in, possibly alone, for months is more terrifying than the chance they'll get a disease they don't understand and aren't afraid of.

They should at least understand that not all older people (or younger people in higher risk groups, or people in lower risk groups who would sooner avoid even a small chance of serious illness/permanent lung damage/death) feel the same way as they do.

 

[Steel Icarus]

Tbf she stopped six feet from me when I told her I was self-isolating.

 

[kalidarkone]

I think there is still a sense of disbelief. It's like a disaster film unfolding. I don't quite believe it myself but am erring on the side of caution.

 

[gentlegreen]

I think what shouldn't be underestimated that for a lot of older people the prospect of staying in, possibly alone, for months is more terrifying than the chance they'll get a disease they don't understand and aren't afraid of.

yes - difficult to get my head around being 90-ish - even as I turn 60 with retirement planning bringing the march of time into stark focus .. some people are going to have a very different mindset.
I'm already feeling a bit stir-crazy myself and I'm walking to work on Monday - probably risking the bus for most of the journey ...
It's going to be weird after a week away from the office when things have been changing so quickly - - presumably we'll have to try to avoid being near the remaining colleagues as much as possible...

 

[SheilaNaGig]

I think there is still a sense of disbelief. It's like a disaster film unfolding. I don't quite believe it myself but am erring on the side of caution.

I keep veering into a place where it feels like we’ve gone collectively mad, it’s all nonsense and hysteria and complete overreaction. When it passes off I realised with a jolt that that’s a kind of defence mechanism for trying to handle the end of the world.

Not being melodramatic here, but nothing will ever be the same again after this. The old ways and the old world is ended and whatever emerges after this will be new and different and strange. Even the old stuff that survives and comes with us will be different because it will be affected by what has happened. It’s almost impossible to fathom. It’s happened so fast. It’s abstract even while we’re living it. So the brain shuts down and says “nope”.

And yeah, it’s quite peculiar that yoga teachers and so forth who presumably desired for the old order to be radically different are somehow refusing to accept or understand that things are falling apart now. Are they so attached to the old order because there they can be comfortably “different” without actually putting any effort into change?

 

[Steel Icarus]

C-19 finally hits North East Lincolnshire.

 

[kalidarkone]

I prefer 'The end of the world as we know it'

 

[Mrs Miggins]

I think there is still a sense of disbelief. It's like a disaster film unfolding. I don't quite believe it myself but am erring on the side of caution.

I had that feeling a couple of weeks ago when we were all sat around at lunch joking about it and saying "oh it will all be fine".
It felt just like the scenes at the beginning of a disaster movie....and now look where we are!

 

[Badgers]

Good tweet:



Might be worth having a thread listing companies who have acted selfishly or treated staff/customers with contempt?
Covid19ShitList
#covid19boycottlist

 

[Teaboy]

I had that feeling a couple of weeks ago when we were all sat around at lunch joking about it and saying "oh it will all be fine".
It felt just like the scenes at the beginning of a disaster movie....and now look where we are!

There are loads of things out there saying this is the worst crisis since WW2. Given that there is hardly anyone alive today who was an adult in WW2 its hardly surprising that we're all unable to recognise a proper full on crisis when it is looming.

 

[SheilaNaGig]

I prefer 'The end of the world as we know it'

Yes that song has been looping in my head for days now.


I'm also remembering when Ursula le Guin was asked what she imagined the end of the world would be like she said "Oh, but the world ends over and over again! The world I grew up in has ended, the world in which I raised my children has ended. The world we know ends and a new one emerges. It's only that it happens at the same pace that we grow that we don't notice it".

It's just happened really really fast this time, all at once everywhere.

 

[Badgers]

For example this is a statement from a Wetherspoon's (minimum wage, zero hours contract) staff member:

 

[SheilaNaGig]

I just got a text from my niece, who lives nearby, offering to pop over with shopping and asking if I need anything.

Bless her heart. It did make me laugh though because it's the very first time I've been treated as a potentially vulnerable elder. I'm in my mid-fifties and she's in her thirties. so it makes sense. But I still think of her as a wee'un so I was about to send her offers of help and support myself!

 

[SheilaNaGig]

For example this is a statement from a Wetherspoon's (minimum wage, zero hours contract) staff member:

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Aren't "allowed"?
So if they take precautions they'll be disciplined?


ETA
Statement from Weathespoons. So they are aware of the issue.

Dear customer


We wanted to update you on the precautionary measures which Wetherspoon is taking to minimise the spread of COVID-19 to both customers and our employees.


We will remain open, with additional precautions, until the government tells us otherwise.

To enable social distancing:

• once you have ordered your drinks, please find a table and avoid standing at the bar.
• our tables will be well spaced – and we ask that customers respect others by choosing alternate tables in the pub.
• you can use our app to order food and drinks, to be delivered to your table.

Other precautions include, but are not limited to,:

• all payments, where possible, being made by card.
• providing regular updates to all employees.
• reinforcing personal hygiene controls.
• emphasising, to both customers and employees, frequent and proper hand-washing.
• educating our employees on prevention.
• cleaning and sanitising contact points more frequently.
• our dish/glasswashers fully sanitising all cutlery, plates, cups and glassware, after every use.

We are continuing to take account of official guidance from the UK Government and Public Health England.


Kind regards
John Hutson | Chief Executive

UPDATED: Wednesday 18 March 2020 at 2pm

 

[Badgers]

Aren't "allowed"?
So if they take precautions they'll be disciplined?

It would not surprise me.
Even if they were allowed could they find/afford the necessary?

Some might suggest that putting some windows in could be for the greater good

 

[SheilaNaGig]

This bloke is such an arse isn't he.

Coronavirus: Wetherspoon's boss says 'over the top' to shut pubs

Number 10 refuses to criticise the entrepreneur, who claims there is "hardly been any transmission" of infection in pubs.

news.sky.com

 

[ruffneck23]

I'm getting really annoyed with one of my mates , refusing to believe there is anything to be unduly worried about. I'm on the verge of telling her to grow up an stop being an idiot, she is so convinced she is right and asking me who i know has got it and proof , blah blah ,saying she thought better of me as I am concerned.