Game of thrones season 8 [contains spoilers]

[ruffneck23]

Yeah, what was that about? Just random small pots of the stuff that people had stuffed in their attic and forgotten about?

yep , I also wondered what that was all about, it felt just put in to look cool , but didn't make any sense to me.

 

[Buddy Bradley]

This sums up my view pretty accurately: https://www.vulture.com/2019/05/game-of-thrones-cersei-lannister-dead.html

 

[sleaterkinney]

I think it's really showing that they've moved beyond the books. Too many meaningful glances and pauses where G Martin would have put in some dialogue or better character development.

 

[Mogden]

Couple of points just tripping round my brain.

Daenerys has "breaker of chains" as part of her name, she was heartbroken at losing a child and her dragons. Why suddenly does she want to kill rather than save people? Even the most twisted psychopath surely can't turn that far, that quickly.

And this, this morning:

Latest Game of Thrones episode sends curveball to children named Khaleesi


Good luck explaining why your kid went from positively angelic to rabid.

And am I the only one to question, and I know dragons are fictional so we haven't exactly got the fact sheet on them, how those walls had the consistency of an chocolate teapot once the flames got them but people were still relatively intact after their initial kebabing Surely if it's hot enough to "melt" walls, the people would have been a mass cremation.

 

[Crispy]

Dragon fire can't melt steel beams

 

[Ranbay]

Whats the hounds beef with his bro then?
and is Arya dead or special powers or something? seems to jump from one place to another? whats that about? eh?

 

[Steel Icarus]

Are you taking the piss?

 

[N_igma]

Whats the hounds beef with his bro then?

The mountain put his face in a fire when they were children. Hence the burn marks on his face and his pyrophobia.

 

[Ranbay]

The mountain put his face in a fire when they were children. Hence the burn marks on his face and his pyrophobia.

Thanks,

 

[Ranbay]

Are you taking the piss?

No

 

[Steel Icarus]

No

I'm just surprised at this stage if anyone posting on the thread is not familiar with the characters, that's all.

 

[Steel Icarus]

A Three-Minutes Supercut Of The 'Game Of Thrones' Cast Pretending To Not Be Disappointed In How The Final Season Ends

 

[Ranbay]

I'm just surprised at this stage if anyone posting on the thread is not familiar with the characters, that's all.

It's been on for like years and years, I sometimes don't know who is who, let alone what there beef was with someone from series X

should have smoked less weed in the 90's i guess.

 

[tommers]

Couple of points just tripping round my brain.

Daenerys has "breaker of chains" as part of her name, she was heartbroken at losing a child and her dragons. Why suddenly does she want to kill rather than save people? Even the most twisted psychopath surely can't turn that far, that quickly.

And this, this morning:

Latest Game of Thrones episode sends curveball to children named Khaleesi


Good luck explaining why your kid went from positively angelic to rabid.

And am I the only one to question, and I know dragons are fictional so we haven't exactly got the fact sheet on them, how those walls had the consistency of an chocolate teapot once the flames got them but people were still relatively intact after their initial kebabing Surely if it's hot enough to "melt" walls, the people would have been a mass cremation.

There was another phantom dragon.

 

[DexterTCN]

A few things.

Firstly we all know they have been working outside of the books for the last couple of years..the writing is just not going to be as good without that source material.

I'm not sure Dany went mad, she just released the dragon (in her), it's been referenced a few times. She's been betrayed by almost everyone since she crossed the sea and has lost many of her people.

She knows she has no love in Westeros, only fear. And remember Missandei's last word before being murdered...dracarys.

And no show could live up to the ridiculous hype we've had over the last 4 or 5 months.

 

[May Kasahara]

This sums up my view pretty accurately: https://www.vulture.com/2019/05/game-of-thrones-cersei-lannister-dead.html

See, I disagree with this. Apart from wondering why Qyburn didn't think to mount at least one scorpion on the Red Keep itself, I think this episode did a great job of showing how humans collapse into irrational, tumultuous fuck-ups in the face of utter chaos. All these people have been through so much, have schemed and lost and destroyed and seen loads of fucked up shit - at the point where resolution suddenly goes up in an unbelievable tornado of destruction, everyone is reduced to basic urges. The city folk stampede in terror, Arya flips from ice warrior to freaked out young woman, Danaerys disappears into her rage, Cersei watches everything she's worked for disappear in a matter of moments and finally understands that she's not indestructible, Jaime just wants to be with someone he loves as the world burns down. People aren't rational, not even carefully written plotters like Cersei.

 

[Steel Icarus]

A few things.

Firstly we all know they have been working outside of the books for the last couple of years..the writing is just not going to be as good without that source material.

But why should this be necessarily the case? One weekend over coffee and biscuits with the still-living George RRRRRRRR Martin and a good screenwriter and the former could have got over the salient points to the latter.
It could have least be made consistent.

 

[rekil]

Yeah, what was that about? Just random small pots of the stuff that people had stuffed in their attic and forgotten about?

Dragon fire can't melt steel beams

False flag
#KLHoax
They're all crisis actors
The 'dragon' was an illusion by one of those baldy scotch wizards
Why would she roast her own people when she was on the brink of victory?
The big arrow things were switched off
Daenerys or we burn the country

 

[Lord Camomile]

But why should this be necessarily the case? One weekend over coffee and biscuits with the still-living George RRRRRRRR Martin and a good screenwriter and the former could have got over the salient points to the latter.
It could have least be made consistent.

Being sympathetic, I think you can see at least somewhat how they're hampered by the logistics of film compared to books, most notably actors who are aging* and/or wanting to move onto other things. Hence the rushing and moving things into place for plot rather than character.

You do wonder though if they could have sacrificed some plots in order to have more time to develop fewer plots more in depth. But we'll have probably complained about that, too

All that said, it does feel like they got GRRM's notes for the stuff beyond the books and didn't realise they had to add anything else.


*edit: not age shaming here - thinking as much about the younger actors, who are now quite a bit older than their characters are supposed to be (so I understand ).

 

[xenon]

Watched last night. Still waiting to find an AD version, so missed some detail. Had to read a recap. But some thoughts FWIW...

Overall I liked it. I suppose now I may be a little accustomed to the creaky lack of character interplay in some scenes, the highly inconsistent weaponry and marksmenship and the rushedness of it all. Which is a shame yeah but unless we waited another 15 years, we're weren't going to get the full fat GRRM goodness. But yes, as mentioned some great seens. Jamie, Tyrian, Arya and the hound. Kiburn quietly pleading for Cercei to just GTFO already.

The Dani's turn is believeable to me, it's the pace that's off. Since her brother got 'crowned' her whole life has been in pursuance of her manifest destiny in her self mitholigising role as the last Targarian. She knows of her father's and family propensity for insane cruelty. She has witnessed first hand the horrors and degradations of conquest. This is what happens in this world. So when she's persuaded to suspend her mission and divert her hard one military might into a war she didn't see coming, losing most of her forces in the process, is seemingly betrayed by her closest advisors and lover, is feeling isolated in the land she's supposed to rule, it's not inconceivable that triggers something. A cruel petulant rage at these people she is meant to rule. Sometimes the wheell slips back. Like with Jamie.

Cercei's death wasn't out of character too much either. With her world literally crumbeling around her, her last thoughts are for wishing for her unborn baby, her and Jamie's legasy to survive. Ranting and raving would have been cartoonish villainry. Leave that to Yourin. Since she burned the September her plotting has been calculated gamble after another. When these fail, what else is left. Sege mentality, resolve. Maybe she should have planned an escape strategy but when has she run away before. In the end there's the only things she cares about right there, with reality crashing in.

 

[xenon]

Oh yeah and the music has been excellent again this season. Liked the reprise of In the Light of the Seven at the end.

 

[Gromit]

That's not what feminism is you jerk.

That's my point... you meanie.

 

[BristolEcho]

I agree with the above mostly. Dani's turn is believable and is foreshadowed in the books, but this should have started much sooner or have gone on in a longer final series.

 

[flypanam]

Is Jamie dead for sure? If not, he'll kill Dany. Jon will kill her dragon, as he's seen it's power and reason the world would be better off without them.

 

[Cloo]

This sums up my view pretty accurately: https://www.vulture.com/2019/05/game-of-thrones-cersei-lannister-dead.html

And if she died defiantly evil, a bunch of people would complain she died a one-dimensional bitch I suppose.

I still didn't really feel sorry for her - felt sad for Jamie who was true to what he said to Brienne. For all he's learned and been through, he can't stop loving his sister, vile as she is, and he convinced himself he deserved no better and was beyond redemption.

 

[donkyboy]

Of course he is dead.

 

[cybershot]

Switch twitter to urban75

 

[Sweet FA]

I liked it - best one this series anyway. At least you could see what was happening mostly.

I don't have a massive problem suspending disbelief for Dani going bonkers and fucking everyone's shit up and by and large most of it kind of hangs together. The bits that stopped me being into the spectacle were:

• The dragon doing exactly the same thing as last time but this time not getting shot...I thought we'd have some cool and cunning new dragon attack but instead everyone just missed...really underwhelming...(though I quite liked the dragon coming round the back and bursting out the front door).

• Cersei not having any kind of plan and then just being dead (OR IS SHE??1!?!!11!!?!); she's not really been in it this series so I thought she might be cooking up another dastardly anti dragon device for a spectacular end.

 

[Crispy]

Nah she dead. The show doesn't do deception. You saw a castle fall on their heads.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

The Dani's turn is believeable to me, it's the pace that's off. Since her brother got 'crowned' her whole life has been in pursuance of her manifest destiny in her self mitholigising role as the last Targarian. She knows of her father's and family propensity for insane cruelty. She has witnessed first hand the horrors and degradations of conquest. This is what happens in this world. So when she's persuaded to suspend her mission and divert her hard one military might into a war she didn't see coming, losing most of her forces in the process, is seemingly betrayed by her closest advisors and lover, is feeling isolated in the land she's supposed to rule, it's not inconceivable that triggers something. A cruel petulant rage at these people she is meant to rule. Sometimes the wheell slips back. Like with Jamie.

Yeah I'd agree with that. The other thing is that she's been burning people since the first series (and later crucifying, etc). It's been entirely in character for her to kill people who she sees as having done her wrong throughout, and sometimes in large numbers as well. The change is in her seeing that circle of people against her as encompassing a whole city, rather than a more defined individual or group. It's not a leap from all round great person to crazed murderer, more from murderer who is just about OK by the standards of the world she lives in to one on the wrong side of that line.

I do think the shortened series hasn't helped though, a couple more episodes could have fleshed it out much more, and some of the dialogue has been pretty poorly written.