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Game of thrones season 8 [contains spoilers]

Surely they burnt them to ensure they didn't come back to life. I would have - however much the bloody wood cost!
Digging all those graves would have been one hell of an effort. You have all winter to cut down more trees, you do not want to survive the megawinter then die of disease because the place is littered with corpses.
 
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So on the basis of a single scene in season 3 being on a road, near a town with a few trees for shade, you have managed to convince yourself that they absolutely cut down a forest (that was not in any actual scene i.e. Battle of Blackwater) and used damp wood for ballistas rather than using the huge pile of gold, repeatedly referenced to bring in a relatively modest amount of the correct wood.
Euron Grayjoy whipping up 1000 ships on short order a couple of season ago, hey yes. Nonsense plot and lazy writing. A queen who just sacked High Garden, payed of the whole debt to the Iron Bank and then hired the Golden Company with the change could not afford to buy in a ton or two of cured wood thus long winded where did it come from "plot hole"?

Bless you, but you'll notice I said 'If that's what they've done'. I was discussing a hypothetical plot option and pointing out how unlikely it would be, thus implying that other options, such as the one you suggest, are more plausible. How from that you've managed to convince yourself that I'd managed to convince myself of something, I've no idea.
 
2 episodes to go an my thoughts are thank you.
I grew up with "epic fantasy" and all the schmaltz that can entail.
Tolkein, Dragon Lance, Donaldson, Wheel of Time and Belgariad.
Perhaps there is something of "with a whimper than a bang" about it but it gave me the ubermensch that is Sandor and his patter. Ygritte and her FU Westerosi polite society, Arya who had something like a 6 season 80s training montage to become the most skilled "Mary Sue" in the history of misunderstood memes, Bronn being Bronn. Lena Heady just owning the screen with imperious majesty. Tyrion and Samwell being the bookwankers we all wanted to be. So many epic characters and scenes.
Thank you.
What a fucking journey. What a ride.
It has not been flawless but it has been incredible fun.
What a pleasure it has been.
 
Tolkein, Dragon Lance, Donaldson, Wheel of Time and Belgariad.

I suppose Martin might seem like a breath of fresh air if you set the bar this low. The belgeriad for gods sake. I still read them though. Sparhawk the Pandion Knight and his child-god.

I mean even David Gemmel was better than that and then only because the fight/battle writing was raw.
 
It did have a bit of a "let's properly spend the rest of the budget" feel about it. Arya "Boomerang" Stark I'm not sure about. Might need a second viewing. The way the Worm turned though. Interesting!
 
They've badly fumbled the ball two yards from the line. All showpiece and tell when they should have shown. The writing - and I don't mean the dialogue, I mean character arcs and motivation, basic logic, continuity - seems to have been shelved in favour of spectacle and hugely broad strokes. And for that reason I genuinely didn't feel much when
Varys died. I should have been sobbing when the Hound got his revenge and even when Cersei finally realised her fate. These characters did not get the endings, writing-wise, their performances deserved.

I never thought I'd say it but as much as anything I'll be relieved this is all over. It's been brilliant but much more of this and I might end up having the whole thing (ahem) sullied for me.
 
Arya "Boomerang" Stark I'm not sure about. Might need a second viewing.

Definately needs a second viewing. Yeah Arya seems to have a new ability to survive rubble falling on her. Still i enjoyed the episode. Glad that the "jamie kills cersei" and "arya kills cersei wearing jamie or littlefingers face" theories were wrong. Bet some are annoyed about that. Evil Danny not a total surprise after the hints last week.
 
I agree things are rushed in the last 2 seasons. That was always going to happen when they shortened them from 10 episodes which was really because of the stars salary increases and tight hbo execs.
 
The emotional beat that got me most was Tyrion saying goodbye to Jaime. And much as I hated the Jaime arc last week I think someone deciding that they needed to be with the person who they had spent their life with, who they had had three kids with are were expecting a fourth, even if they are an awful person, make sense, it just could have been written much better.

I thought the technique of showing it from Arya's viewpoint really worked. GRRM has always been about subverting tropes, right? Well, this is what it looks like, from most ordinary people's point of view, when our 'hero' conquers the city with a dragon. This is what violence is always like for most of the poor fuckers caught up in it.

This is what happens when the Big Bad finally meets their end. Cersei was never a cartoon evil baddie. She was cruel, she was vengeful, she was toxic, and she also knew you win or you die and she always wanted to win for her children.
 
The emotional beat that got me most was Tyrion saying goodbye to Jaime. And much as I hated the Jaime arc last week I think someone deciding that they needed to be with the person who they had spent their life with, who they had had three kids with are were expecting a fourth, even if they are an awful person, make sense, it just could have been written much better.

I thought the technique of showing it from Arya's viewpoint really worked. GRRM has always been about subverting tropes, right? Well, this is what it looks like, from most ordinary people's point of view, when our 'hero' conquers the city with a dragon. This is what violence is always like for most of the poor fuckers caught up in it.

This is what happens when the Big Bad finally meets their end. Cersei was never a cartoon evil baddie. She was cruel, she was vengeful, she was toxic, and she also knew you win or you die and she always wanted to win for her children.

That was another annoyance as well.

Was she ever pregnant? Is the fact that she will have (from Dany's pov) disappeared rather than be confirmed dead going to mean increased paranoia, or can we expect two perfectly identifiable bodies being laid before Dany's feet next episode?
 
That was another annoyance as well.

Was she ever pregnant? Is the fact that she will have (from Dany's pov) disappeared rather than be confirmed dead going to mean increased paranoia, or can we expect two perfectly identifiable bodies being laid before Dany's feet next episode?

The show never said she wasn't, it all came from fans wondering whether she'd drink a glass of wine if she were, therefore assuming King's Landing has the same pregnancy culture as 2019 California.

I suspect anyone still in the Red Keep will be presumed dead. There'd be word from Pentos had they actually managed to reach there.
 
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So are Cersei and Jaime definitely dead?

Anyway, apart from that, I thought it was probably the best episode so far. I liked the harshness of the reality of a city at seige. Previous episodes have gone out of their way to not show the carnage that happens when war meets innocents. It was hinted at (the females being kept back to be murdered by their own side instead of raped then murdered by Stannis Barratheon's soldiers, in the battle of black water...), but never actually depicted.

It's the nasty ending we were promised. Or at least the build up to it.
 
it wasnt bad, but need to watch again when I'm a bit more awake as I couldnt really see what was going on most of the time

Could see it fine but i had to turn the volume low to avoid annoying the neighbours at 6am so some of the dialogue was hard to follow. Will watch again when i get home from work.

I've just asked my boss if i can book next monday off.:D
 
Did anyone else spend the whole episode
waiting to find out what amazing surprise plan Cersei had for when Dany reached the Red Keep, only to be completely let down when she turned into a whiny baby feeling sorry for herself, in a complete 180 from her character for the entire rest of the 8 seasons?
:mad:
 
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