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Game of Thrones Season 7 - Monday Morning Torrenters Thread

The Knights King has turned one of the dragons!!!! Oh noesss!!!!11111

That means bad dragon will kill another dragon so dany will only be left with one :(:(

The quality is better than SD.
Good luck for the incoming shit storm
 
Lol. Love how you completely missed my point. Flew so far over your head it nearly hit a jumbo jet.
Your point was that all the characters have complex relationships to morality, and that their actions vary over the course of the stories. Further, that morality is subjective to each character, that fate/prophecy brings morality into question as it does free will, and blah blah blah. The sort of point kids should be able to make at primary school, and nothing like as profound as you seem to think.

We get it. But unless you think characters are binary "goodies" and "baddies" (which no one does), the linear spectrum allows us to weigh up all the conflicting actions and contexts, and make a nuanced judgment. Moreover, the fact that it's an individualised exercise allows the participant to incorporate their own subjective values, which can then be discussed as we compare results.

For example, for me, a sadist like Joffrey, Ramsey Bolton or the High Sparrow rates as more evil than Cersei, despite her presumably higher body count. I know that's not rational: it's subject to my personal distaste for the pleasure the first three took.
 
Your point was that all the characters have complex relationships to morality, and that their actions vary over the course of the stories. Further, that morality is subjective to each character, that fate/prophecy brings morality into question as it does free will, and blah blah blah. The sort of point kids should be able to make at primary school, and nothing like as profound as you seem to think.

We get it. But unless you think characters are binary "goodies" and "baddies" (which no one does), the linear spectrum allows us to weigh up all the conflicting actions and contexts, and make a nuanced judgment. Moreover, the fact that it's an individualised exercise allows the participant to incorporate their own subjective values, which can then be discussed as we compare results.

For example, for me, a sadist like Joffrey, Ramsey Bolton or the High Sparrow rates as more evil than Cersei, despite her presumably higher body count. I know that's not rational: it's subject to my personal distaste for the pleasure the first three took.
You are closer but still don't get it.

Perhaps you should view the video interview with Martin where he discusses / dismisses good and evil labels altogether.
 
I'm watching it now, but surely it's easy enough to avoid spoilers until Monday?
just don't look at threads like this
 
Watched it but feel like I've been naughty. What an episode!!!

Yeah, me too but I do have a huge problem, you can now tell that GRM has no control over the storyline.

The people you root for are still alive, there are no shocking upheavals anymore, our heroes are still alive, romance is blossoming and WHERE DID THE FUCKING ZOMBIES GET THE CHAINS?

Run to Eastwatch, send a Raven, How fucking long were they defending that rock without sleep, food or water, come on, the writing has gone to fucking shit.

Why harpoon a flying dragon when you have a stationary one far closer with all your enemies on it's back, check it again, it's a far easier kill.

As I said, the scriptwriting has gone to fuck, we have accountants writing the narrative and they fucking wreck everything.
 
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I have Dany closer to the centre line but not on the side of good. She's a tiresome, vain, child. Petulant. Her aims may be noble but their execution shows that time and again she's more prepared to let people die than admit she doesn't know wtf she's doing. What surprises me is how highly she rated in the beauty line. I mean, she's obviously beautiful, but not compared to Margery or melissandre or quite a few others.


My only other big deviations from the averaged chart were that I thought Brianne and Tyrion were both above the line for beauty. I fancy both of them, a bit.

Personal taste. I'd rate Dany more attractive than Margery. Margery is very hot too, but has a slightly upturned snout. :D I think Dany is a 'good' character. The only ones I've seen as wholly evil (as in can't see any motivation for their cruelty) are Joffrey and Ramsay Bolton (sp?).
 
Personal taste. I'd rate Dany more attractive than Margery. Margery is very hot too, but has a slightly upturned snout. :D I think Dany is a 'good' character. The only ones I've seen as wholly evil (as in can't see any motivation for their cruelty) are Joffrey and Ramsay Bolton (sp?).

You pissed or what?
 
I've had a couple of beers. What are you taking objection to? :hmm:

Personal taste. I'd rate Dany more attractive than Margery. Margery is very hot too, but has a slightly upturned snout. :D I think Dany is a 'good' character. The only ones I've seen as wholly evil (as in can't see any motivation for their cruelty) are Joffrey and Ramsay Bolton (sp?).

Upturned snout for a start but, powering on, the reason Joffrey and Ramsey are 'evil'in your eyes is because they are fucking barking mad, they are not evil, Joffery was a coward and used his accident by birth to full advantage, Ramsey had a heritage to prove and was a crazy cunt to boot, Euron is some of the same, watch him become the new unhinged villain, bet he starts making people paraplegics for his shudders.
 
Upturned snout for a start but, powering on, the reason Joffrey and Ramsey are 'evil'in your eyes is because they are fucking barking mad, they are not evil, Joffery was a coward and used his accident by birth to full advantage, Ramsey had a heritage to prove and was a crazy cunt to boot, Euron is some of the same, watch him become the new unhinged villain, bet he starts making people paraplegics for his shudders.

Euron is pretty horrible, but he hasn't been given the same focus as Bolton or Joffrey.
 
I'm not even going to spoiler as tapatalk ignores it anyway in the thread preview.

Good episode though. That's all I'm saying until Monday.
 
You are closer but still don't get it.

Perhaps you should view the video interview with Martin where he discusses / dismisses good and evil labels altogether.
How about you explain it. Presumably you understand it well enough to tell me I'm wrong, so... go ahead.
 
He just means that people are both good and bad at the same time, or even that good and bad doesn't really work for complicated stories.
He thinks he is being clever and that you don't understand that.
I know. Both these things and more, I already explained I understood in my earlier post. It's just, if Gromit reckons there's more to it, I'd like to seem him put it in his own words.
 
The people you root for are still alive, there are no shocking upheavals anymore, our heroes are still alive, romance is blossoming and WHERE DID THE FUCKING ZOMBIES GET THE CHAINS?
Benjen seems more like a magical get out of jail free card to me. I vaguely remember him from the first series. But now he seems to occasionally pop up to fix a difficult situation. If I don't get good answers about him I'll be as cross as I was when Lost finished.
 
He just means that people are both good and bad at the same time, or even that good and bad doesn't really work for complicated stories.
He thinks he is being clever and that you don't understand that.
I'm being clever? I didn't write Game of Thrones. It's Martin who is being clever and casting aside simplistic sliding scales.
 
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