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G20: Getting to the truth- the death of Ian Tomlinson RIP

Isn't it the case that other people have had verdicts of "unlawful killing" from inquest juries and coroners but there has still been no civil or criminal convictions of police officers? I'm thinking of cases like Oluwashiji Lapite, and Roger Sylvester, although the latter was overturned on appeal. I think Harwood will have internal Met proceedings, get sacked, he'll be painted as a bad apple, and that will be it. There's no new appetite where it matters for a frank look at policing, let alone policing and protest. It's disgraceful but true.

I must admit Harwood's "he ran into a door trying to escape" record entry marked a new point of bitter absurdity for me (not about Tomlinson, about one of the two other men he had physical confrontations with in the few minutes before).
 
I dont think he'll face charges for manslaughter - 'insufficient evidence to secure a conviction' - as you would have to prove beyond reasonable doubt that PC savage's assault led directly to the injuries that killed him rather then being one of a number of factors.

on the other hand, is there any evidence to suggest that ian tomlinson would have died that day if it wasn't for the actions of harwood?

as far as i can tell, only the first pathologist drew this conclusion and he's been suspended from the gmc over issues with post mortem examinations in other cases.

harwood has also had a post mortem carried out on the body and has kept the result secret.

to a reasonable person, that would suggest it didn't support his case.
 
I think Harwood will have internal Met proceedings, get sacked, he'll be painted as a bad apple, and that will be it. There's no new appetite where it matters for a frank look at policing, let alone policing and protest. It's disgraceful but true.

And so it begins,

Matthew Ryder said he has finished his cross-examination of PC Harwood.

Ms Samantha Leek, counsel for the Metropolitan police, is now questioning him. She said her questioning would focus on briefings and training received by the police officer.
 
There were three post mortems: Patel, then Cary, then Shorrock (acting for the Met) and Swift (for Harwood). Shorrock agreed with Cary's findings.

All four are scheduled to give evidence:

Monday 11th April

Dr. Freddy Patel (Post Mortem Examination)

Toxicology / Histology Results

Tuesday 12th April

Dr. N. Cary (Post Mortem Examination)
DS Antony Crampton
John Cockram
Stephen Dean
Barry Tuckfield

Wednesday 13th April

Dr. Shorrock (Post Mortem Examination)
Dr. Ben Swift (Post Mortem Examination)

BBC story on Swift findings being withheld:
...Another pathologist, Ben Swift, jointly conducted the third post-mortem examination on behalf of Pc Harwood.

On Tuesday, coroner Paul Matthews revealed that the officer's lawyers had refused to disclose Dr Swift's findings, citing legal privilege.
 
Are you allowed to that :confused: Why would that be considered appropriate or legal?

Apparently so. Although the coroner appeared to be doubtful.

A separate postmortem examination into the death of Ian Tomlinson carried out on behalf of the policeman filmed hitting him at the G20 protests last year has been withheld from the authorities, it has emerged.

The autopsy, the third on the newspaper seller's body, was jointly conducted by the forensic pathologist Ben Swift at the request of lawyers for PC Simon Harwood, who is shown striking Tomlinson in a video revealed by the Guardian.

Harwood's lawyers have withheld Swift's report from the Crown Prosecution Service and the Independent Police Commission, citing legal privilege, according to the BBC.

The CPS confirmed it had not been handed a copy of Swift's report by Ben Swift as it was defence material, so the CPS was "not entitled to see it".

Paul Matthews, the City of London coroner who carried out the inquest into Tomlinson's death, was also denied access, the BBC reported.

"I have not so far obtained sight of it," Matthews said of the report. "I simply wish to marker down that I wish to pursue this."

The BBC said Matthews was pursuing gaining access to the report and claimed he had "doubts" about the decision to withhold it.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/sep/08/ian-tomlinson-postmortem-withheld-coroner
 
on the other hand, is there any evidence to suggest that ian tomlinson would have died that day if it wasn't for the actions of harwood?

as far as i can tell, only the first pathologist drew this conclusion and he's been suspended from the gmc over issues with post mortem examinations in other cases.

harwood has also had a post mortem carried out on the body and has kept the result secret.

to a reasonable person, that would suggest it didn't support his case.

To secure a manslaughter conviction you would have to convince a jury, beyond reasonable doubt, that Harwoods assualt led directly to Ian Tomlinson's death. There is enough uncertainty about that - Tomlionson was probably pissed, 'conflicting' coroners reports, possibility that Tomlinsons could have suffered other injuries/falls leading up to his death - that the CPS would argue that they are not confident they would secure a conviction. If it was joe soap who'd attacked Tomlinson they would have prosecuted two years ago - but as its a copper they will only prosecute if they have absolutely no choice. I think there's enough doubt for them to duck the issue.
 
<snip> If it was joe soap who'd attacked Tomlinson they would have prosecuted two years ago - but as its a copper they will only prosecute if they have absolutely no choice. I think there's enough doubt for them to duck the issue.

Quite, given the likely social impact of the cuts on both police and public, the last thing they need is 'morale problems' in the force caused by convicting a policeman of crimes committed while beating up demonstrators.

On the contrary, sending the message 'if you demonstrate, you are likely to get beaten up and possibly killed by unaccountable police thugs' is far more desirable from the point of view of the state.
 
The only reason the CPS said they wouldn't prosecute is because of the conflicting report by the 1st pathologist who has since been suspended from the GMC over issues with post mortems.

The first issue that the CPS considered was whether the actions of PC 'A' were lawful. Having analysed the available evidence very carefully, the CPS concluded that there is sufficient evidence to provide a realistic prospect of proving that the actions of PC 'A' in striking Mr Tomlinson with his baton and then pushing him over constituted an assault. At the time of those acts, Mr Tomlinson did not pose a threat to PC 'A' or any other police officer. Whilst the officer was entitled to require Mr Tomlinson to move out of Royal Exchange, there is sufficient evidence to provide a realistic prospect of proving that his actions were disproportionate and unjustified.

http://www.cps.gov.uk/news/articles/the_death_of_ian_tomlinson_decision_on_prosecution/

They should let a jury decide and stop prejudging justice. This is a high profile case and I believe it is in the public interest to prosecute.

If he's found not guilty, then fair enough.
 
The only reason the CPS said they wouldn't prosecute is because of the conflicting report by the 1st pathologist who has since been suspended from the GMC over issues with post mortems.

Given the performance so far of Harwood's brief Mr Gibbs, there may be some slapped foreheads at Rose Court.
 
Thing is, Constable Savage seems to think it's ok for a policeman to attack someone if they are "defiant" and that the issue raised by the video evidence is whether or not he was correct about Mr Tomlinson being "defiant".

I wonder how many other cops think it's ok to attack someone for being "defiant"?
 
Let's hope we hear more about how he collapsed and had to be hospitalised when he saw the footage. If he really did, he must be mentally ill. Why are people like that given the job of hitting the public on the head with a stick, and not diagnosed and kept somewhere safe?
 
At least one juror seems to have his number:
"There have been some questions from jurors. (One asked if Harwood had been taking "performance enhancing tablets" on the day of the G20. He said he wasn't.)"
 
The only reason the CPS said they wouldn't prosecute is because of the conflicting report by the 1st pathologist who has since been suspended from the GMC over issues with post mortems.

They should let a jury decide and stop prejudging justice. This is a high profile case and I believe it is in the public interest to prosecute.

If he's found not guilty, then fair enough.

That was over wether to prosecute harman for assault, not manslaughter.

ant yeah of course harman should face the courts for what he did - but what should happen is not what is likely to happen.

Its clear that Harman left his van to go out for a bit of aggro - his actions in the period leading up to his assulat on Tomlinson all point ot a hyped up violent nutjob on a rampage. Its also clear that his behavoir was not deemed remarkable in anyway by his collegues - becasue the cops on the day, esp the TSG, were clearly hyped up and very confrontational and aggressive all day (I was there).

Harwood's reason that he attacked tomlinson becaseu he thought he was being 'defiant' - are very revealing. I'm sure that is exactly what was going through his head - I'm on a mission and woe betide anyone who gets in my way and doesn't jump to it when I tell them to.

In other words Harwood is a violent bully who gets a kick out of throuwing his weight around - and as such typical of the knuckle draggers in the TSG.

It will - of course - all go down the 'bad apple' route, lessons learned etc bullshit. Thats why I hope Ian Tomlinsons family sue the arse of the met police (although they will probably settle out of court rather than have senior offcier having to account for their tactics in the dock).
 
Isn't there a dog bite to be discussed with the rest of the pathologists' reports? Sure there was one reported. Might help to unravel the 'one bad apple' approach.
 
The Met will say he was acting outside their procedures. That will be it.

The fact that every officer was doing the same, nay was encouraged to do so at numerous protests down the years will not come up (I was one of the hundreds assaulted on that day, and I too was walking away from the TSG officer at the time). The fact that no officer intervened, chastised Harwood, or helped anyone else won't even be a question. And officers will continue to be vicious thugs towards people until the next time they kick out a "bad apple" etc.

The Met doesn't act any differently in this regard to any other arm of government. Individuals are encouraged or forced by circumstance to act in a certain dangerous and pressured ways in the NHS, civil service, social work (of course there are difference - social workers aren't an armed paramilitary wing of the state, but you get my drift) etc. etc. every day but when there's a scandal or accident, it's individuals rather than the ethos, structure and procedure of the service which entirely take the blame.

Now I don't have any pity for a TSG thug like Harwood but he will be a scapegoat for how protest is policed, continues to be policed, and how government wants protest to be policed.
 
Thing is, Constable Savage seems to think it's ok for a policeman to attack someone if they are "defiant" and that the issue raised by the video evidence is whether or not he was correct about Mr Tomlinson being "defiant".

I wonder how many other cops think it's ok to attack someone for being "defiant"?

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It's the age old problem: how do you make a good police force out of the people who want to join it? One way to weed out the inadequate bullies would be to sack anyone who volunteers for the TSG.
 
That was over wether to prosecute harman for assault, not manslaughter.

That's not what I understand from the details contained in the link I included.

My impression is that they were deciding whether to prosecute at all and considered a number of different charges.

Possible charges

The first issue that the CPS considered was whether the actions of PC 'A' were lawful. Having analysed the available evidence very carefully, the CPS concluded that there is sufficient evidence to provide a realistic prospect of proving that the actions of PC 'A' in striking Mr Tomlinson with his baton and then pushing him over constituted an assault. At the time of those acts, Mr Tomlinson did not pose a threat to PC 'A' or any other police officer. Whilst the officer was entitled to require Mr Tomlinson to move out of Royal Exchange, there is sufficient evidence to provide a realistic prospect of proving that his actions were disproportionate and unjustified.

Having concluded that the officer's actions could constitute an assault, the CPS then considered the possible criminal charges.

Unlawful act manslaughter

Unlawful act manslaughter was the most serious charge considered. This is where a killing is the result of the defendant's unlawful and dangerous act where the unlawful act is one which all sober and reasonable people would realise would subject the victim to the risk of some physical harm, even though it might not cause serious harm.

In order to proceed with this charge, the CPS would have to prove a causal link between the alleged assault on Mr Tomlinson and his death.

On that issue, the medical experts were and remain fundamentally divided. Dr Patel's opinion is that Mr Tomlinson's death was "consistent with natural causes" and that the cause of death was "coronary artery disease". The opinion of Dr Cary and Dr Shorrock is that Mr Tomlinson's death was the result of abdominal haemorrhage (internal bleeding) caused by blunt force trauma to the abdomen.

A conflict between medical experts inevitably makes a prosecution very difficult, but the CPS proceeded on the basis that such a conflict need not automatically mean that a prosecution must fail. For that reason, we explored at some length the possibility of proceeding without relying on the evidence of Dr Patel. However, we were ultimately driven to conclude that, as the sole medical expert who conducted the first post mortem, Dr Patel would have to be called at trial as a prosecution witness as to the primary facts. His evidence would be that there was no internal rupture and that the fluid consisted of blood-stained ascites and not blood alone. Even leaving out of account the stark disagreement between him and the other experts as to the cause of death, the CPS concluded that the evidence of those primary facts undermined the basis upon which the other experts reached their conclusions about the cause of death. As a result, the CPS would simply not be able to prove beyond reasonable doubt that there was a causal link between Mr Tomlinson's death and the alleged assault upon him.

That being the case, there is no realistic prospect of a conviction for unlawful act manslaughter.

Assault

Two types of assault charge were considered: assault occasioning actual bodily harm and common assault.

Assault occasioning actual bodily harm would require the prosecution to prove that the alleged assault on Mr Tomlinson caused him actual bodily harm. So far as the push on Mr Tomlinson is concerned, the conflict in the medical evidence prevents this. If the push caused Mr Tomlinson's death, the appropriate charge would be manslaughter, not assault occasioning actual bodily harm. If, as we have concluded, the prosecution cannot prove a causal link between the push and Mr Tomlinson's death because of the conflict in the medical evidence, it follows that actual bodily harm cannot be proved either.

The separate strike with the baton was also considered. It had left patterned bruising. But where injuries are relatively minor, as these were, the appropriate charge is common assault in accordance with the CPS Charging Standard, which is applied nationally. This Charging Standard was applied in another incident arising from the G20 where a police officer had struck the complainant twice with his baton.

Common assault does not require proof of injury, but it is subject to a strict six month time limit. That placed the CPS in a very difficult position because enquiries were continuing at the six month point and it would not have been possible to have brought any charge at that stage.

Misconduct in public office

The CPS also considered the offence of misconduct in public office. The offence is committed when a public officer acting as such wilfully neglects to perform his duty and/or wilfully misconducts himself to such a degree as to amount to an abuse of the public's trust in the office holder without reasonable excuse or justification. The offence is, in essence, one of abuse of the power or responsibilities of the office held.

The offence of misconduct in public office cannot simply be used as a substitute for other offences and simply being a police officer who commits a criminal offence, even one of assault, does not, without some other aggravating factor, automatically amount to the offence of misconduct in public office. Mr Tomlinson's death would be an aggravating feature, but for the reasons already stated, the prosecution cannot prove a causal link between the alleged assault and the death to the criminal standard. The Court of Appeal has held that: "The threshold is a high one requiring conduct so far below acceptable standards as to amount to an abuse of the public's trust in the office holder." In addition: "It will normally be necessary to consider the likely consequences of the breach in deciding whether the conduct falls so far below the standard of conduct to be expected of the officer as to constitute the offence." The 'likely' consequences of pushing a person to the floor is that they may sustain some bruising. But, in this case, on the analysis of the medical evidence set out above, the CPS would not be able to prove beyond reasonable doubt that Mr Tomlinson's fall had caused him any injury.

As a result, we have concluded that the conduct of PC 'A' did not meet the high threshold required to constitute the offence of misconduct in public office.

In reaching a decision about misconduct in public office, the CPS also took into account the fact that the Court of Appeal has indicated that it would be wrong to charge misconduct in public office as an alternative to a charge of manslaughter in circumstances where the prosecution cannot prove the cause of death.

As far as the dog bite is concerned, there is no evidence that the dog handler instructed or encouraged the dog to bite Mr Tomlinson.

The decision in this case was taken by Stephen O'Doherty, a Deputy Director of the CPS Special Crime Division and a highly experienced reviewing lawyer. Advice was taken from Tim Owen QC, who is recognised as one of the leading lawyers in the country specialising in police law and criminal law. The Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) reviewed all of the important material and also attended a number of the meetings with the medical experts. Against that background, he is satisfied that the CPS carefully considered all the evidence in this case.

The CPS is aware that comment has been made about the time taken to reach a decision. We understand the anxiety that this has caused to the family of Mr Tomlinson and the DPP discussed it with them. He is satisfied that the CPS acted as quickly as was consistent with the thorough and careful review of the evidence that was necessary. The review entailed not only the painstaking exercise of mapping the movements of all concerned, over many hours, but also the extensive exercise of seeking to resolve the complex and difficult areas of disagreement between the medical experts.

http://www.cps.gov.uk/news/articles/the_death_of_ian_tomlinson_decision_on_prosecution/
 
Some of Harwood's "evidence" sounds frankly laughable, if it wasn't so deadly.

Yep, hence the 'Constable Savage' cracks I was making earlier.

It's quite painful how much he sounds like the sort of stereotypical violent dumb thug who attacks evidently harmless citizens for being 'defiant' and struggles to understand why non-coppers might have a problem with that ...

In a sense though it was just bad luck that he happened to kill the unfortunate Mr Tomlinson. How many more just like him were running around at G20 one wonders?
 
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