Frankie Boyle - business as usual (Rebecca Adlington)

[Fedayn]

Agai I have you're just not reading paxman light...

Again, no you haven't.

 

[butchersapron]

No you havent. You've even basically admitted you havent.Stop lying.

A) I have, i really have, i have
followed by
B) How can i if i don't know the criteria, it's not my fault if i haven't
followed by
C) I have, i really have

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

are you suggesting that you might find humour in debasing children

humour of course not.


sexual release on the other hand...

 

[tendril]

no he's a comedian, you and others pushing for certain types of comedy to be censored because it don't meet your exacting standards are in fact the bullies by dictating what a wider audience should or should not be exposed too in terms of your personal taste ...

If you don't like it turn: it off/ it over/away from it

don't seek to censor others by the standards of your own pedestrian sense of humour...

While I agree with you on this, I keep thinking "chubby brown"

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

I already have.

nope because if you KNEW me you'd KNOW that your previous comments aren't so much out of the ball park as being in a different continent, truth is you've never met me, and KNOW nothing about me... the only things you know are second hand through others and you've taken them to be true because it coincides with your assumptions about me cos deep down you're quite a prejudiced judgmental fuck with nasty opinions about a great many things... keep drinking the kool aid though maybe one day you might actually find something about me out... but I think you've got more chance of bolye coming on here and you convincing him the error of his ways...

fuck me you're so easily lead, hasn't that ever worried you about how uncritical of your evidence you are about this minutiae you've not once wondered where the source of your information comes from not once... bit stupid really... but then you are...

 

[Wilf]

post #167 clarifies sufficiently stop asking the same question...

Here's 167 in all it's glory:

petty irrelevant point of no significance; but it's the only one you've got isn't it other than admitting that you and you're bestie have gotten rather irate about a joke making you look like the po faced fools you are...

Provide the criteria which we can judge the humour and then we can discuss whether that is acceptable a form to have jokes based around or not... otherwise starting a call out thread about a comics jokes you don't get or like is a cry for censorship: Look at this outrage... this is unbelievable... down with this sort of thing...

etc...

No, still not getting it.

 

[revol68]

humour of course not.


sexual release on the other hand...

Tres bien.

 

[Firky]

Here's 167 in all it's glory:

No, still not getting it.

I think he means, comedy is um.. a metaphysical thing with no absolute so we should not judge it because people have differing perceptions of what is funny and or acceptable. Therefore any criticism of comedy is a form of subversive censorship.

I dunno, I'd have to consult my Garfield Thesaurus of Trite Verbose and Logic. I am having a stab in the dark here.

I can sort of see (but not agree with) where he is coming from but what he's not getting is that everyone on this thread is just saying Boyle made a shite joke.

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

While I agree with you on this, I keep thinking "chubby brown"

brown was a racist as was manning... there's ample evidence of that aside from them telling jokes based in racism... there's zero evidence for boyle being a bully he's equally objectionable about everyone or everything, if it's humour and can be taken to the next dark place with a few additional steps he does it... his aim is to offend... that's his humour... he's a misanthrope sure no doubt ... but sexist, bully... etc that's people taking their own values and installing them in other people vicariously and then rallying against them... oddly what butchers has done to me over the years... but he's too stoopid to accpet this rather he attacks a pantomime character of who I am so he can still put up 'valid' points against the sock puppet of his own invention... oddly not unlike most are doing on this thread about boyle... ironic huh...

still if you agree with me I'm retracting everything I've said as clearly I'm in the wrong...

 

[Wilf]

I dunno, I'd have to consult my Garfield Thesaurus of Trite Verbose and Logic. I am having a stab in the dark here.

I.

That's a callout thread on poor old Roget.

 

[belboid]

post 167 clarifies nothin g except your dishonesty garf.

If saying something is shit is 'like a cry for censorship' then:

a: your other comments, on needing the appropriate guide to approved humour, is entirely irrelevant. Simply posting 'x is shit' would be a call for censorship, that would be all the guide you need.

&

b: then you'd have called for censorship on a mass scale considering how many things you have said are shit

So, I think we can conclude:
a: you are desperately trying to justify your fallacious claim using the most tortuous, and contradictory, logic possible
&
b: you can't justify your daft comment, and you know it

 

[revol68]

brown was a racist as was manning... there's ample evidence of that aside from them telling jokes based in racism... there's zero evidence for boyle being a bully he's equally objectionable about everyone or everything, if it's humour and can be taken to the next dark place with a few additional steps he does it... his aim is to offend... that's his humour... he's a misanthrope sure no doubt ... but sexist, bully... etc that's people taking their own values and installing them in other people vicariously and then rallying against them... oddly what butchers has done to me over the years... but he's too stoopid to accpet this rather he attacks a pantomime character of who I am so he can still put up 'valid' points against the sock puppet of his own invention... oddly not unlike most are doing on this thread about boyle... ironic huh...

still if you agree with me I'm retracting everything I've said as clearly I'm in the wrong...

I don't think he is a bully, I think he's a comedian flogging a dead horse.

The logic of those claiming any criticism of him is censorship and oppressive is however that of the bully.

 

[DotCommunist]

Ah cambridge- cheers wiki. I think Cook most annoyed me when doing a that rant that included him meeting a black man who was being butler and he did theis whole 'come dis way sah' 'you know ow they facking talk'
bit and I was annoyed cos this posh guy who was very funny had in his cups decided that doing a parody of a working class person must surely include a bit of racist chat. So I suppose he wasn't immune to a bit of border-crossing himself. Can you imagine if the fucker was alive during the era of twitter? now there would be a feed worth following

 

[belboid]

blah blah blah ... but sexist, bully... etc that's people taking their own values and installing them in other people vicariously and then rallying against them...

whether he is actually a sexist bully, or is 'merely' making use of sexism and bullying to tell a joke is irrelevant.

 

[Wilf]

brown was a racist as was manning... there's ample evidence of that aside from them telling jokes based in racism... there's zero evidence for boyle being a bully he's equally objectionable about everyone or everything, ...

Ironically, that's word for word the defence Bernard Manning used.

 

[revol68]

I don't think he is sexist, he's just a cunt about everyone, he is however not very funny and a bit of a bullshitting coward for claiming to be oh so controversial and subversive and then picking such easy targets.

I also think the same about Stewart Lee from time to time, generally because he's just a bit of a smug liberal, who isn't half as radical as he thinks. His skit on Dan Brown books being one such played out soft target.

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

I don't think he is a bully, I think he's a comedian flogging a dead horse.

The logic of those claiming any criticism of him is censorship and oppressive is however that of the bully.

it's not of him it's that the joke is shit... so many here don't like that joke so fucking what... who they fuck are they or you to say this is good humour this isn't... you might have gotten away with it if you'd said thats not appropriate for x audience but not that's not funny...

there are thousands of comics out there plenty which I don't personally find funny but I wouldn't say they're shit or their jokes are just they don't appeal to my humour. you go around saying this is shit fine you go around with some defined notion of funny then that's not fine at all, it's enforcing a group think it's censorship...

also in saying that's not a funny joke you're also saying anyone who laughed or reacted in a positive humors way to the joke is some who lesser as a result as well, not that they have different taste or humour but it's not funny, by extension people who find it funny have to have something wrong with their humour else they too would think like the group...

 

[revol68]

it's not of him it's that the joke is shit... so many here don't like that joke so fucking what... who they fuck are they or you to say this is good humour this isn't... you might have gotten away with it if you'd said thats not appropriate for x audience but not that's not funny...

there are thousands of comics out there plenty which I don't personally find funny but I wouldn't say they're shit or their jokes are just they don't appeal to my humour. you go around saying this is shit fine you go around with some defined notion of funny then that's not fine at all, it's enforcing a group think it's censorship...

also in saying that's not a funny joke you're also saying anyone who laughed or reacted in a positive humors way to the joke is some who lesser as a result as well, not that they have different taste or humour but it's not funny, by extension people who find it funny have to have something wrong with their humour else they too would think like the group...

And we are through the looking glass...

 

[belboid]

no one may ever say any joke is shit, or they're a nazi liberal censor!

 

[Firky]

I also think the same about Stewart Lee from time to time, generally because he's just a bit of a smug liberal, who isn't half as radical as he thinks.

Aye!

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

Ironically, that's word for word the defence Bernard Manning used.

but it didn't stand up to the light of day when in fact he was shown up to not be equally offensive ... find something on bolyes racism then ... you're claiming equality with manning prove it...

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

no one may ever say any joke is shit, or they're a nazi liberal censor!

no one may ever tell a joke which isn't approved by the party...

 

[Wilf]

but it didn't stand up to the light of day when in fact he was shown up to not be equally offensive ... find something on bolyes racism then ... you're claiming equality with manning prove it...

I haven't fucking suggested Boyle is a racist - FFS! I just said it was ironic you were using exactly the form of words Manning used to distance Boyle from Manning.

 

[Wilf]

no one may ever tell a joke which isn't approved by the party...

oh, yes, the groupthink. I've pulled my earpiece out and I still think you are talking shite.

 

[belboid]

no one may ever tell a joke which isn't approved by the party...

but you did just say what i posted garf, no one has said what you just posted.

go to the pub. we're all done here

 

[Firky]

Boyle was accused of being racist by some tory MP when he did that Tramadol Nights show. He used the word 'nigger' a few times in a satirical context and was pulled up about it.

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

I haven't fucking suggested Boyle is a racist - FFS! I just said it was ironic you were using exactly the form of words Manning used to distance Boyle from Manning.

no ones said you have read it again... you're claiming equality with manning so prove it...

 

[Firky]

Boyle was accused of being racist by some tory MP when he did that Tramadol Nights show. He used the word 'nigger' a few times in a satirical context and was pulled up about it.

Just to throw some water in the chip pan...

Frankie Boyle​

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is at the centre of another storm after using the words ‘nigger’ and ‘Paki’ in his Channel 4 show this week.​

Although the words were intended to highlight racist attitudes, their use has heaped pressure on the broadcaster following his joke about Katie Price's disabled son.​

Tory MP John Whittingdale, chairman of the all-party Culture Media and Sport Committee in the Commons, said Channel 4 should consider sacking the comic over the words.​

But they stood by him, saying the intent was satirical.​

In his stand-up routine, Boyle discussed how news reports always considered British lives more valued than foreign ones.​

He said: ‘What gets me is our callousness as a society when we read out our dead on the news first, because our lives are more important. Other people’s aren’t worth as much.’​

He then mimicked a newsreader to add: ‘A bomb went off in Kandahar today, killing two British servicemen, three UN relief workers and a whole bunch of Pakis.’​

Later he said: ‘The Ministry of Defence? At least in the old days we were honest, it was The Ministry of War.’ He then adopted the tone of a receptionist to say: ‘Hello Ministry of War, department of nigger-bombing, how can I help?’​

The episode of Tramadol Nights also included a sketch in which a woman dressed like a sexy Super Mario danced provocatively before waving to the camera and saying: ‘Hello to Pakis everywhere.’ Afterwards, Boyle in character as an academic said: ‘That was very probably wrong.’​

Whittingdale said: ‘The words nigger and Paki are deeply offensive to a large number of people. I don't think even in comedy it is justified​

‘Frankie Boyle is becoming a serial offender. I really think Channel 4 will have to think whether it's appropriate to screen programmes which are regularly causing offence to a lot of people. It might be a breach of the Broadcasting Code. Ofcom will have to determine that.’​

A spokesman for campaign group Show Racism The Red Card said: ‘Regardless of context and intention, the use of words such as these has the effect of normalising racist language.’​

And Mohammed Shafiq, chief executive of the Ramadhan Foundation called it ‘abhorrent,’ adding: ‘ People at home watching that will think that this sort of language terminology is acceptable in the 21st Century.’​

But a Channel 4 spokesman said: ‘We strongly refute any suggestion we are endorsing or condoning racist language by our broadcast of Frankie Boyle's Tramadol Nights.​

‘This cutting-edge comedy is clearly intended to ridicule and satirise the use of these words - Frankie Boyle was not endorsing them. Channel 4 would not have broadcast these words had they been used in a racist way. All the jokes highlight the unacceptable nature of this language.’​

Regulators Ofcom are set to investigate Boyle’s joke against Katie Price’s eight-year-old son, broadcast earlier in the series.​

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Read more:​

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http://www.chortle.co.uk/news/2010/12/23/12447/frankie_boyle_in_racism_row#ixzz228e6qC6m​

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

but you did just say what i posted garf, no one has said what you just posted.

go to the pub. we're all done here

nope I didn't funny were you not the one claiming lies were being said care to edit or post where I've called anyone a Nazi on the thread... thanks awfully...

 

[revol68]

Going to show that Garfield like "logic" can be deployed to attack Frankie Boyle as well as defend him.