France V Holland

[littlebabyjesus]

I would say that England actually had a fair amount of luck in 96. Scotland missed a penalty, and then gazza scored a once in a lifetime goal. That would have made it two 1-1 draws against the goliaths of switzerland and scotland. Then we were very lucky that the dutch team were disintegrating when we played them. And spain had two perfectly fine goals disallowed unfairly.

Yes, you may be right - my memory may be skewed by the Holland game. You have to go back to 1990 to find a good enough England team then.

 

[isitme]

ok put it another way, do you think that italy in 2006 were light years ahead of england?

italy in 1994 were, never won nothing tho, but the italy who won the world cup were a pretty shit team

the difference was that they knew what they were doing

italy are very similar to england in terms of being overrated, but they won the fucking world cup, with players worse than us

 

[isitme]

england 96 was magic

no luck, just magic

if they had been allowed to wear red shirts to play germany they would have won

 

[TrippyLondoner]

Why is it everytime we see a good team performance, the thread has to become about england? This argument has been done to death already, can we now focus back on the topic this thread was about or move on to todays games??

 

[isitme]

it was a bit like that time in 1947 when wales managed to play a whole game without anyone getting carded or sent off

noone knows how, but it happened...

 

[Balbi]

isitme, joker.

The Italy team was full of accomplished professionals - they'd been there and done it.

Now compare it to the England team. Lots of supposed potential, 'world class' players..........

Man to man, Italy were the better team. With the better players.

 

[TrippyLondoner]

Yes ok we get it already. You done bitching yet?

 

[Balbi]

Me? I can never tire of knocking England

 

[editor]

if they had been allowed to wear red shirts to play germany they would have won

LOL.

 

[Diamond]

The fact that this thread has focused on England's recent performances rather than the brilliant match last night tells us a lot about the insular, unrealistic and parochial attitudes that assure English football's perceived failure.

 

[Donna Ferentes]

Well, not really. It might mean that some individual started banging on about England and a number of other English people took issue with this.

 

[Diamond]

Hence perceived failure.

 

[gabi]

The Dutch are still 3/1 on at Ladbrokes to win it. Worth a few quid I reckon.

 

[Sadken]

LOVED that game. Considering applying for Dutch nationality.