Forthcoming ACG Public Meeting on War in Ukraine
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SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
War in Ukraine: Is 'No War but the Class War' Just a Slogan?
What does the slogan 'No War but the Class War' mean in the interimperialist conflict between Russia and NATO-backed Ukraine?www.eventbrite.co.uk
Inter-imperialist.
Better go and tell all those dead kids they shouldn't have been so NATO-backed in the first place.
emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
Maybe read the thread.
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
He won't.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
I read it.
It seems to be quite a lot of people pointing out that 'inter-imperialist' is a load of old bollocks, along with you gradually backing down from various claims to the contrary.
Would be interesting to search for posts about 'NATO imperialism' from before this current conflict, and it becoming the hot take of tankies everywhere. You yourself never mentioned NATO once prior to January 2022.
I had wondered if people would see something imperialist in, say, Latvia's membership of NATO or in Finland's plans to join.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
They're waiting for the official position on that to be sent down from Comrade Commissar Galloway.
emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
I think It's complicated. Obviously the reason countries like Latvia joined NATO isn't because they have grand imperial ambitions of Marching on Moscow one day. They joined because they are afraid of Russia doing to them what it is currently doing in Ukraine.
But at the same time them joining does benefit America and European imperialist ambitious having them as members.
There are a variety of Push and pull factors at work.
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
"seems..."
Kevbad the Bad
Amiable Bowel Syndrome
Well, a bloke in the pub told me that Russia had always been Latvian and one day Latvia would take back control. At least, I think that's what he said. My Latvian is a bit rusty these days.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
I used to live with a Lithuanian guy with similar views, only with Lithuania instead of Latvia. According to him all western civilisation was derived from stuff Lithuanians invented.
Kevbad the Bad
Amiable Bowel Syndrome
He was probably at least half serious, though. I'd forgotten all about Lithuania's imperialist past.
Which is actually quite interesting: BBC Radio 4 - In Our Time, The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
History's only elected monarchy IIRC.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
The holy roman emperors famously elected
Kevbad the Bad
Amiable Bowel Syndrome
It wasn't exactly universal suffrage though.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
No. But then what was
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
And King Harold of England was elected, though again, not by universal suffrage.
mojo pixy
שיר חדש
ah fuckit nvm
I got a ticket to this meeting though and I'll do my best to log in on the night.
Will a link be forthcoming? And now I think of it, what platform will it be on? Serge Forward
I got a ticket to this meeting though and I'll do my best to log in on the night.
Will a link be forthcoming? And now I think of it, what platform will it be on? Serge Forward
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Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
Yeas. You'll get the link on the day. Zoom I think.
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
No, but the password is Workers Witan.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
I've changed it to 'The Raven'
Ah invoking Godwinson‘s law.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Mason has just announced his ten tweet critique of some Corbyn statement and in the replies, he sets out what Corbyn should be doing . Can anyone expand on the Ukrainian left and people's war issue. ? I always thought that the left in Ukraine was extremely small and fragmented.
I think you've got the wrong thread mate.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
No this is the thread where I might get a decent answer. I’ve got to push past the bomb Russia brigade , retweets of retired generals nonsense on the other Ukraine threads .
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i have emailed jeremy corbyn a copy of loompanics' guide to gun-running for fun and profit.Hang on. Is Mason criticising Corbyn for not sending guns to Ukraine?
