It wasn’t about reassurance it was about context. I do realise you’re not big on that generally, though.This will be most reassuring to players, referees and would-be attendees.
It wasn’t about reassurance it was about context. I do realise you’re not big on that generally, though.This will be most reassuring to players, referees and would-be attendees.
Yep. Old post is old but I fucking hate getting the tram when Man United have played, because I live on the OT route. I just keep my headphones on and my head down and hope they'll stay away from me. I'm not great at dealing with large groups of drunk men.Indeed. I don't follow football or get the tribalism either. Trouble is hooligans don't always just keep the edgy atmosphere to the football ground...
I used to cut my arms when my team lost. One time I self-harmed so badly I had to call an ambulance. I don't get how that's irrational, but beating other people up and killing them because you don't like their team, is.
each to their own, but hard to argue against the fact that, while this behaviour still exists, football has become much much more welcoming to all groups of people in recent years and since the late 90s onwards. Old Trafford is half full of families of tourists now, for example (I say that as a Man United fan). the hooliganism mentioned in this thread is almost entirely between like-minded small groups and away from the crowds.I mean neither are rational. But I get your point.
I concur with what you say about being disinterested. My levels of interest have massively dropped in recent years, in no small part due to the kind of nonsense which follows the men's game in this country. Large groups of mostly white men being twats, drunkenness, racism, homophobia, tribalism of the worst kind. People literally with tattoos of crap towns like Luton or Ipswich on their body parts. Because football. It's fucking weird really.
each to their own, but hard to argue against the fact that, while this behaviour still exists, football has become much much more welcoming to all groups of people in recent years and since the late 90s onwards. Old Trafford is half full of families of tourists now, for example (I say that as a Man United fan). the hooliganism mentioned in this thread is almost entirely between like-minded small groups and away from the crowds.
It's not so much the inside of the stadiums of the big premier league clubs that's the problem. It's all the fringe twattery around it. Pubs, and trains, and town centers festooned with shouty, fighty, men being all tribal and threatening. It's just not for me.
They're slightly different things aren't they. On the whole the groups of shouty men aren't really hooligans. Those groups are much smaller and as mentioned are mostly off doing their thing somewhere else. Groups of loud drunken blokes are not great to be around though for sure, even when they're not being particularly threatening.
Are you also just getting old? I don’t particularly like being around drunk LADS anymore even though I was one a few years ago!
Its a shame that TV channels deem that we are not permitted to watch these sort of scenes, and just pan to the centre circle. OTT censorship. Did that West Brom player actually think his child was in any danger? Because i really didn't.Nasty scenes at West Brom vs Wolves, game stopped, players taken off, massive fight in the stands. A West Brom player has been into the crowd to get his littleun out of there as the trouble is near where the players' families sit. Silly fucking twats. Imagine being an actual grown up and having a fight at the football.
Yeah i would probably rather be watching the Liverpool match. Lots of Police and security around the pitch now, no doubt to prevent a pitch invasion and further scuffles at full time.No idea mate. But why give a bunch of dickheads any publicity?
I'm now pissed off cos we have to watch fifteen minutes of this non-event rather than get all of what might be an extraordinary atmosphere at Anfield.
Seems like a perfectly reasonable response to adults fighting, throwing missiles and injuring each other. I'd want to take my kid out of that situation too.Did that West Brom player actually think his child was in any danger? Because i really didn't.
Although ITV mercifully mostly shielded our eyes from the disorder, it seemed like it was in the home end, in the front corner. Also some reports of further trouble in the other end. Would West Brom players really sit their family with a toddler in those areas for a fierce derby match, when they are at home, and therefore likely the pick of the complimentary seats in the stadium? Or was he playing up for the cameras? If the latter, then its worked as there is already a juicy Daily Mail headline about him.Seems like a perfectly reasonable response to adults fighting, throwing missiles and injuring each other. I'd want to take my kid out of that situation too.
It’s bad enough for grown adults to fight at football in the first place, but you’d have to be particularly thick to do a Mike Tyson impression on a copper’s jaw.. I could understand the rage if he was punching a Wolves fan, but what was the point of that? Jail time for sure. Nice punch throwing though.The guy is a helmet.
Its a shame that TV channels deem that we are not permitted to watch these sort of scenes, and just pan to the centre circle. OTT censorship. Did that West Brom player actually think his child was in any danger? Because i really didn't.
Although ITV mercifully mostly shielded our eyes from the disorder, it seemed like it was in the home end, in the front corner. Also some reports of further trouble in the other end. Would West Brom players really sit their family with a toddler in those areas for a fierce derby match, when they are at home, and therefore likely the pick of the complimentary seats in the stadium? Or was he playing up for the cameras? If the latter, then its worked as there is already a juicy Daily Mail headline about him.
"It was unfortunate that this happened, but fortunately there was no dramatic situation with the families or any people in that area. The lives are more important than anything. The situation was being controlled by the security people and the situation didn't have any negative consequences for the families, but the players were worried because their families were there. The co-ordination of the medical people and the people who are in charge of the security and safety of the people has been excellent, that is why the game was played until the end. I was a little bit worried because when I called Erik Pieters to make the change, I saw that he was looking for his family and I lost my communication with him.”
"The parents of Jed Wallace were in the corner where the trouble sparked. “Wolves and West Brom [are] two big clubs with very passionate fans,” the home captain said. “I understand the game meant a lot to both sets of players, both managers and both sets of fans and you don’t want to see that happening.
“That’s the family area so a few of the kids were over there, which is why you had the distress of a few players going over. I don’t really know what’s gone on, who’s in there, who shouldn’t be in there or whatever else. It’s a shame because the support was brilliant and it was an amazing atmosphere to play in.”
This guy fighting the coppers and knocking off a helmet
2 Brighton fans stabbed in Rome
BBC News - Brighton & Hove Albion fans stabbed before Europa match in Rome
Brighton & Hove Albion fans stabbed before Europa match in Rome
Two Brighton & Hove Albion fans have since been discharged from hospital.www.bbc.co.uk