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Fitna the movie

Fitna is the Zionist's 'The Eternal Jew'. You have to understand that 'Free speech' is Zionists criticising anyone they like, and 'Hate speech' is anyone criticising Zionists.
three replys in and its already a jewish plot:rolleyes:
 
By the way, the ship of Islam isn't sinking. It is actually getting wings instead.

no shit

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Oh the irony. I'm not the one suggesting all muslims are bombers. I see that kind of behaviour from knuckle draggers where I live who shout 'bomber' at any Asian they see in their street. You did more or less the same. You should talk to Aldebaran rather than throw abuse. I fundamentally disagree with lots he says, but I'd never resort to the bigoted crap you've come out with. Shame on you
 
Oh the irony. I'm not the one suggesting all muslims are bombers. I see that kind of behaviour from knuckle draggers where I live who shout 'bomber' at any Asian they see in their street. You did more or less the same. You should talk to Aldebaran rather than throw abuse. I fundamentally disagree with lots he says, but I'd never resort to the bigoted crap you've come out with. Shame on you

You seem to be all worked up about this. Maybe your liberal sensitivities need a lie down, dear. :p
 
I know you Kiwis are a bit slow, but having an opinion on something beyond look, point and grunt doesn't equal being worked up
 

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Thank you for making me smile. You react just the way I thought at least one poster would. Maybe now you can read my posts again and discover where you completely missed the point. Surely that didn't happen on purpose, I'm sure my English isn't clear enough to be understood by everyone.

salaam.
 
:)
Thank you for making me smile. You react just the way I thought at least one poster would. Maybe now you can read my posts again and discover where you completely missed the point. Surely that didn't happen on purpose, I'm sure my English isn't clear enough to be understood by everyone.

salaam.

couldn't resist it :)

For simple folk like Spion, I'd better say something like "Not all muslims are terrorists".
 
How is a Catholic a zionist?

How is a Zionist a Catholic do you mean?


Although "a Catholic", he has admired Israel many times, which he had previously visited "about 40 times". He claims that people can work for their money there, unlike in the Netherlands. He has experienced a "special feeling of solidarity, which he had not experienced in any other country before" and he "would like to move there". Most of his wives - since he had several, have been Jewesses; several even from Israel. People from his former People`s Party for Freedom and Democracy have pointed out several times that they suspect Wilders is being instructed by the Israeli Embassy in the Netherlands. He has denied the allegations, but when he was a member of the party, he had an employee who came directly from the Israeli Embassy. There have been official parliamentary questions and questioning sessions concerning Geert Wilders' frequent visits to the Israeli embassy.
 
"Christian Zionism (called Restorationism until recently, the term Christian Zionism appearing only in the mid-twentieth century [1]) is a belief among some Christians that the return of the Jews to the Holy Land, and the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948, is in accordance with Biblical prophecy and, [2]. This belief is primarily, though not exclusively, associated with Christian Dispensationalism, mainly in English-speaking countries outside Europe. The idea that Christians should actively support a Jewish return to the Land of Israel, along with the parallel idea that the Jews ought to be encouraged to become Christian, as a means fulfilling a Biblical prophecy has been common in Protestant circles since the Reformation."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism
 
mmm... No. You jump to conclusions, which isn't all that original nor is it something I didn't expect to happen. You are a new member, so you can't know better ;)
I am a scholar. I am also historian, among others. (hint: My first doctoral research & thesis had as subject the history of Al Qur'an as text.)

salaam.

You will, of course, forgive me, but I was not making any assumptions - I was seeking answers to my questions.

Regarding your being a scholar, I have no reason to expect that you are not anything other than as you describe. If it isn't the case then no doubt it will become apparent over time.

And thank you for your welcome to these boards.
 
You will, of course, forgive me, but I was not making any assumptions - I was seeking answers to my questions.

Regarding your being a scholar, I have no reason to expect that you are not anything other than as you describe. If it isn't the case then no doubt it will become apparent over time.

And thank you for your welcome to these boards.

Well, I don't think I welcomed you properly - which by this I do - but if you do a search on my membername and "Islam" and "Muslims" or related, you might come across a few things ;)

salaam.
 
couldn't resist it :)

Of course not. You must do credit to former posts you made on related issues :)

For simple folk like Spion, I'd better say something like "Not all muslims are terrorists".

You should also know better than posting such things to me, as if it is expected I would agree, or disagree.
I knew since I was a kid that inevitably everyone needs to be respected for what everyone is, or is not.

salaam.
 
How is a Zionist a Catholic do you mean?


Although "a Catholic", he has admired Israel many times, which he had previously visited "about 40 times". He claims that people can work for their money there, unlike in the Netherlands. He has experienced a "special feeling of solidarity, which he had not experienced in any other country before" and he "would like to move there". Most of his wives - since he had several, have been Jewesses; several even from Israel. People from his former People`s Party for Freedom and Democracy have pointed out several times that they suspect Wilders is being instructed by the Israeli Embassy in the Netherlands. He has denied the allegations, but when he was a member of the party, he had an employee who came directly from the Israeli Embassy. There have been official parliamentary questions and questioning sessions concerning Geert Wilders' frequent visits to the Israeli embassy.


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Of course not. You must do credit to former posts you made on related issues :)



You should also know better than posting such things to me, as if it is expected I would agree, or disagree.
I knew since I was a kid that inevitably everyone needs to be respected for what everyone is, or is not.

salaam.

Sorry mate, but having no respect for religion and diminished respect for those who follow it, I can't this sort of debate seriously. Someone wants to take the piss out of a religion and followers, be my guest. The alternative is to subscribe to religious persons' tendency towards personal and societal authoritarianism.
 
Sorry mate, but having no respect for religion and diminished respect for those who follow it, I can't this sort of debate seriously. Someone wants to take the piss out of a religion and followers, be my guest. The alternative is to subscribe to religious persons' tendency towards personal and societal authoritarianism.

You do see where - and why - this is so very amusing to read, I hope?

salaam.
 
No, it refers to your post expressing so clearly your tendency to personal and societal authoritarianism (and I had to p&c this to get all the letters right and got nausea trying to read it.)
:)

salaam.
disrespected by Poi E religionist with no tendency to be like him.
 
Perhaps it is because the religion which is the subject of the film (putting aside issues regarding the interpretation of that religion) is generally accepted as originating from within Arabia?
 
No, it refers to your post expressing so clearly your tendency to personal and societal authoritarianism (and I had to p&c this to get all the letters right and got nausea trying to read it.)
:)

salaam.
disrespected by Poi E religionist with no tendency to be like him.

Glad our feeling is mutual. About all we have in common, thank goodness.
 
Perhaps it is because the religion which is the subject of the film (putting aside issues regarding the interpretation of that religion) is generally accepted as originating from within Arabia?
So did Christianity but people do not associaty Christianity with the Middle East.
 
What a strange thing to say! Do you have visions of Jesus and his friends having blue eyes and blonde hair then?
 
Perhaps it is because the religion which is the subject of the film (putting aside issues regarding the interpretation of that religion) is generally accepted as originating from within Arabia?

The main fear expressed in the film is not concerned much with Middle Eastern Islamism, but the 'threat' of the rise of Global Islamists.
 
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