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First interview for nearly a decade, what will I have forgotten?

Cloo

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I have a first phone interview for a job - first interview in nine years, possibly as soon as tomorrow afternoon. What sort of shit will I have totally forgotten about that I need to do/say in an interview, eg what have you kicked yourself about after going to a first interview for a while?

Also 'phone screens' have become a thing since I last interviewed, what should be my key things to get across? This is a comms role with a now fairly established startup in my field. It's kind of marketing-y, like a lot of the sort of roles I could apply for, though I am not really a marketing person. I have worked closely with marketing types on content though. I know a lot about their field and apparently their difficulty in recruiting has been finding someone who really knows the area.
 
it's a lot more common now to do 'competency based', as in the questions will be along the lines of "give me an example of a time you did X" rather than "what would you do if X happened?"

X could be a technical skill relevant to the job, it could be something more fuzzy like providing excellent customer care, building a network to achieve things in your job, or whatever.

the skills / competencies they are looking for ought to be reflected in the advert / person spec or whatever.

Situation (general) - Task - Action - Results (task and action being more you rather than the whole team)

have they said what basis the interview will be? If it is (or might be) this sort of thing

can be worth trying to think of some good examples to use before you do the interview - with some interviewers, they will give a chance to demonstrate you've done a variety of this sort of thing, but this is a particular example. some interviewers will get pissed off if you try to give more than one example.

but maybe not worth trying to get anything too rehearsed, as there may be a specific angle they want it from. and they may follow up with 'and what did you learn from this?' or 'and what would you do different next time?' Or ask a question about something you did that didn't go well and what you learned / how you recovered the situation.

Done well (on potential employer's part) it's not much more than a good natter about stuff you've done in the past. Done badly (again on their part) it can be some nurk from HR who knows bugger all about the job and is just looking to tick off buzzwords on their list.

All of the above could be way off course - I'm not and have never been in the creative line, they may do things differently.

Hope it goes well.
 
I know the lady interviewing is a) Kiwi and b) much younger than me so I think definitely being informal and yourself is the way to go. It'll be more of a screen to establish if a 'cultural match' than an interrogation of my CV, so I'm trying not to overprepare. I might stick some notes to the wall of Things To Make Sure I Mention.
 
Okay, IME, the phone screen will likely be the HR/recruiter person. They'll talk through the job description but will likely have no real knowledge of the role. They're probably just checking you're not a complete idiot and sound vaguely plausible.

They should be able to tell you what the next steps are though and may at this point give you a test/exercise to do and get back to them by whatever date.

This sounds obvious but...remember that your company-specific stuff will mean nothing to them. Avoid company-specfic jargon/abbreviations and think about the skills your role uses rather than rely on the job title to convey that as job titles can mean very different things in different places.

Prepare your 'how you got into this type of work' origin story and how you got from job x to job y if you've moved within your current organisation.

Good luck!
 
I know the lady interviewing is a) Kiwi and b) much younger than me so I think definitely being informal and yourself is the way to go. It'll be more of a screen to establish if a 'cultural match' than an interrogation of my CV, so I'm trying not to overprepare. I might stick some notes to the wall of Things To Make Sure I Mention.
What's her job title?
 
What's her job title?
Head of Marketing - basically, from what I've been told, she has been doing everything marketing related on her own for three years. They've just got a big injection of funding so they are employing 4 more marketing/comms people to be a team under her. The role I'm going for is a 'content manager' - basically they want someone to do a lot of the writing, commissioning/working with internal (and some external I think) policy and thought leadership specialists, which is a lot of what I do. Needs to know a bit about SEO/marketing, which I do insofar as I work quite closely with people who know about it, and it sounds like they'll have their own specialists on that. I think a lot of what I want to ask tomorrow is around the wider team set-up and what they want to get out of the new arrangement (aside from less work on the lass recruiting).
 
Head of Marketing - basically, from what I've been told, she has been doing everything marketing related on her own for three years. They've just got a big injection of funding so they are employing 4 more marketing/comms people to be a team under her. The role I'm going for is a 'content manager' - basically they want someone to do a lot of the writing, commissioning/working with internal (and some external I think) policy and thought leadership specialists, which is a lot of what I do. Needs to know a bit about SEO/marketing, which I do insofar as I work quite closely with people who know about it, and it sounds like they'll have their own specialists on that. I think a lot of what I want to ask tomorrow is around the wider team set-up and what they want to get out of the new arrangement (aside from less work on the lass recruiting).
Okay, well that sounds very positive. I mean they wouldn't be getting her to talk to you if they didn't think you looked good for it (recruitment people generally have more time to waste :)).

So your questions sound good. Just remember if you're going to be working together, she wants to know you're not a nightmare so you'll be absolutely fine in that regard.
 
Prepare some questions in advance about what the job involves, do some elementary research on the company because they will ask you if you know much about them and no is never the answer. Even though it's online treat it like you're in the same room, don't fiddle with watches, clothes etc, fidget or avoid eye contact. If they can see you be mindful of what's in the background behind you.
I know you have kids so if they're the house make sure they know to stay out of the way.
Don't boast or tell porkies but do your best to sound confident about things you know and that you can learn the things you don't.
Don't diss previous employers, You left them for positive reasons, to focus on your career or raise your kids not because they were a bunch of tosspots.
Above all else relax, the mere fact they are interviewing you is proof they haven't rejected you out of hand and they believe you can probably do the job, this is initially about seeing if you will fit in.
And like everyone else on here let me wish the best of luck.
 
Check whether the interviewers have read your application or your CV/covering letter, what they already know about you. It's increasingly common for companies to do 'blind recruiting' in the shortlisting and interviewing stage, so someone shortlisting won't necessarily know your personal details, but also interviewers might not have seen your application form/CV and covering letter, so that they can compare and judge all applicants equally in response to a set of standard questions.

Basically, don't assume they are already aware of all your experience and skills. I think know I've made that mistake in the past, assuming a certain knowledge level about me on their part, when they didn't know anything except my name and the time of my interview.

This is especially common in organisations that use the STAR technique for applications/interviewing, where they'll start each interview with a template containing standard questions for all candidates and boxes to write your answers in, and then they score all candidates answers in the same way.

So don't assume they know what your previous roles were and how much experience you've got and what your skills are, what software packages you've used that are relevant to the role, etc.

Refresh your memory about the job description/person specification.

If it's over the phone, make sure you have notes to refer to it they ask any questions along the lines of 'So tell us how you would reach the different audiences for book/author X and book/author Y, what would you do differently for those marketing campaigns?' or if they say 'Tell us an example of when you briefed a creative/designer or managed a budget,' have examples ready.

Basically, have bullet points in your notes with examples of how you meet all the different criteria. And if you don't have any relevant examples from your current role or roles in that sector, think of other examples, eg, I haven't managed a budget for a marketing campaign, but I have managed a £xxk budget for a house renovation project, getting quotes, sourcing suppliers and materials, creating and sticking to a timeline, liaising with contractors and suppliers, dealing with external delays and technical problems, using my judgement to juggle and keep within costs, using a contingency and/or revising other elements of the budget, knowing what are the essentials and the 'nice to haves', what can be trimmed or cut without compromising the project.

Even if you don't have specific examples/experience of Task A, B, or C in your sector, make sure you can give them an example of how you meet that criteria, whether it's from a different sector or personal life, eg household or hobby or volunteering, such as I haven't promoted an event in my publishing roles, as I've worked on the editorial side, but when I was... I dunno? could be something like 'When I was involved in a campaign to save some trees/a community garden in my neighbourhood, another neighbour who was a whizz with graphic design created publicity materials, I put up posters, delivered flyers, (recruited other volunteers to deliver flyers), I organised a workshop and we made a banner, wrote a press release and got it covered by the local paper, I spoke in public at a council meeting on behalf of the local residents, promoted the event on different social media channels, and the campaign was successful, we saved the community garden! etc.' or could be promoting/marketing a community choir concert, or something else. Think up some more examples now, so you don't get thrown/stuck in the interview.

I always try to think of two or three examples of each skillset/scenario, because I have been thrown in the past depending on how they ask questions, when I think 'Argh! I thought that last question was the one about teamwork, but it must've been about organisational/logistical stuff/managing priorities when working with different people in different places, so I've now already used my best 'example of being good at teamwork' answer to that last question!' and if I had just had one perfect answer to the question about xyz I could've been thrown (for which, read 'have been thrown' and left umming and ahhing, trying to think up another example on the spur of the moment).

I think assuming a knowledge base about me is where I've gone wrong in a number of 'fair format' interviews, thinking I didn't want to just parrot stuff that I'd already put in my application. But I think you have to approach interviews like a clean slate nowadays, don't rely on them knowing anything about you or your previous experience, because I think these types of interviews are increasingly common.

And what you mentioned about it being hard to recruit people with knowledge of the sector. Hammer home your USP in this respect. Has the role been re-advertised? What's the skills/knowledge gap that they're looking to fill? Make sure they know you can fill it, because xyz.

And have your answers ready for 'You've been working on X side of this sector for a few years now, why do you want to move over to communications/ marketing?' make sure your answer isn't along the lines of 'I've reached a bit of a career dead-end, advancement from my current role is a 'dead man's shoes' type scenario and those people aren't going anywhere!' or 'I got on well with my previous boss, but my current boss is awful/a bully!' Always give positive reasons for wanting to make the transition, (even if you're wanting to escape in whole or in part for negative reasons), explain how and when current or previous roles have touched on this aspect and piqued your interest, any internal training you've done, or online courses, stuff done in work or in your own time, emphasising your ability to learn new skills and progress.

And don't forget to research the company and also try to think up some questions. I think my last interviewer was surprised when she asked me what I knew about them and I mentioned I'd read they'd recently received some venture capital funding and planned to triple their size. Maybe not everyone thinks about or researches the wider company and not just the role? If they're already operating, or planning to expand into, overseas territories, do you have any relevant experience, language skills, etc?

And good luck!
 
Thanks AnnO'Neemus - all good stuff. Agency has given them my CV so I do assume they have read, but as you say, maybe good not to assume the detail. I found out a good question to ask at the end of interviews is 'Is there any aspect of my experience you'd like to hear about that we haven't covered?' - I thought of it after gsv had an interview where they told him afterwards 'Sorry, but you didn't have any experience in X'. When he had experience in X. So I figured it avoids that scenario.

Re: subject knowledge, I plan to stick lists to the wall of areas I can talk about, including some fairly cutting edge ones in this area. They have some association with the org I currently work for, which is also helpful, and my contacts there would be advantageous to them.

I should look at all their social media channels - they are very visual so they could well cross over onto a lot of platforms.
 
Stuff about STAR for competency based interviews is all good.

You can prepare a final elevator pitch about why you would be brilliant for them. Use that at the end of the interview when they ask if you want to add anything. You can practice this so you end positively on a high note.
 
Also think of some key achievements to mention, if you get a chance. Again, write a few bullet points and keep your notes to hand, in view. If you're not going to blow your own trumpet in a job interview, when are you?

And when it comes to the Any questions? bit, hopefully you'll have made a few bullet points and have some interesting questions for them, that you've either come up with before or during the interview. But tbh, I've often answered most of my questions by researching the company beforehand.

One thing you can do is turn that question on them, ask if they have any further questions for you, is there anything that you've said in your previous answers that they would like you to clarify or expand upon? Hopefully gives you a chance to quell any doubts they might have, gives you an opportunity to address any concerns they might have.
 
Good luck Cloo !

just a side point - if you can manage to be smiling for a good portion of the appropriate times, that will come across in your voice and should make you seem even more confident ...
 
Yeah, I learned about STAR last time round and have been meaning to revise it. Elevator pitch to end on is a good idea.

I am genuinely keen on this one; v. good money, it's commercial but generally a useful and beneficial service with lots of applications and although it's newish I think it has legs and will have a strong market for the foreseeable.

But not too optimistic - I'm not a fantastic interviewee, I just have to keep going until I get an interview with someone who takes to me really!

Either way, any takeaways will be interesting - if I go in a more marketing content direction, it opens up about 4x as many roles as editorial. If I don't get this, will definitely look into some digital marketing training on my own time (and usefully work are very happy for me to do SEO/analaytics type training for my role as is). My sis-in-law did a course between jobs last year and I plan to ask her about it - I don't know if it's something that could fit round FT work on not, but think it's worth asking, and I know she rated it.
 
Good luck Cloo !

just a side point - if you can manage to be smiling for a good portion of the appropriate times, that will come across in your voice and should make you seem even more confident ...
Another thing I've realised from having to watch/listen to myself back when transcribing interviews and such is my voice can sound quite nasal and droney (which is disappointing as it sounds quite nice and cultured in my head!) so sometimes when hosting meetings etc I've actually added side notes to remind myself to vary cadence and maybe pitch up slightly. I fear otherwise I could sound quite dull and jobsworth.
 
If they ask you competency questions (is that the right description) starting with tell me about a time when you did ... etc - remember the "STAR" framework.

STAR stands for
Situation
Task
Actions
Results
 
Thanks AnnO'Neemus - all good stuff. Agency has given them my CV so I do assume they have read, but as you say, maybe good not to assume the detail. I found out a good question to ask at the end of interviews is 'Is there any aspect of my experience you'd like to hear about that we haven't covered?' - I thought of it after gsv had an interview where they told him afterwards 'Sorry, but you didn't have any experience in X'. When he had experience in X. So I figured it avoids that scenario.

Re: subject knowledge, I plan to stick lists to the wall of areas I can talk about, including some fairly cutting edge ones in this area. They have some association with the org I currently work for, which is also helpful, and my contacts there would be advantageous to them.

I should look at all their social media channels - they are very visual so they could well cross over onto a lot of platforms.
I had a similar experience to gsv. Asked to tell us what you know about cooperative sector, so I gave brief overview, historical background, where and when founded, the different types of coop, eg member, worker, housing, etc, mentioned the biggest coop, which happens to be Spanish, Mondragon, I was a member of a few coops, had volunteered for some.

I gave what I thought was a comprehensive but in a nutshell answer, and the feedback was that they gave the job to someone who knew more about the cooperative sector. If they'd asked me what else I knew, or asked me more specific questions, I probably could've given them chapter and verse, but they didn't ask me to expand any further. sigh

So, yeah, checking if there are any skills or knowledge that they're looking for in a candidate that you haven't already covered/satisfied them about in your answers is a good one. 👍🏻

ETA: re: assuming they have read your CV because the agency sent it to them. That's the tricky thing. The agency might've sent your CV to the HR people who decide who to shortlist. But then the interview might be carried out by line manager who hasn't seen anyone's CVs, so all candidates start off interview on equal footing, no knowledge of educational background (whether state or public school, Oxbridge or redbrick or polyversity, etc) no knowledge of career history, gaps in employment, etc.
 
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Another thing I've realised from having to watch/listen to myself back when transcribing interviews and such is my voice can sound quite nasal and droney (which is disappointing as it sounds quite nice and cultured in my head!) so sometimes when hosting meetings etc I've actually added side notes to remind myself to vary cadence and maybe pitch up slightly. I fear otherwise I could sound quite dull and jobsworth.
And smile! Don't forget to smile! 🙂

I've worked in radio, and you really can hear the difference.

Some people working in radio would print out the scripts and mark them up, eg underline words where you want to add emphasis, etc.

Having worked in radio, I think (hope!) I do all the varying intonation stuff naturally now, but I suspect that me being Aspie (on the autistic spectrum), it's something that I've learned, rather than something that I've always done naturally, as well as making an extra effort on my part to do eye contact, etc.
 
If they ask you competency questions (is that the right description) starting with tell me about a time when you did ... etc - remember the "STAR" framework.

STAR stands for
Situation
Task
Actions
Results
Thanks, I was trying to remember!

I definitely plan to play on 'I worked the hardest three months of my life as we transitioned to digital while suddenly at home with no support and two people on furlough, while also covering half of someone else's job and home educating two kids' thing where appropriate :D
 
Thanks all - basically it's a boost to have got something. I applied for 2 or 3 things half-assedly last year but no bites there, so I have decided to look concertedly this year and taking time every week to look at what's out there are try to apply for something every week. Allegedly no one can find anyone to recruit for anything, so it seems a time I can try branching out a bit. I like my current job but I had been waiting for it to 'go digital', which it finally did with COVID, as it was clear that all specialist professional editorial of the sort I work on was going to be digital first in future and I'd be unlikely to find a new job as a print editor. Now have two years of 'digital content' behind me. What I've found is a lot of 'content' roles are really in a marketing direction, some of which want marketing background explicitly, others of which, like this, are open minded to the right person who can write, edit and commission. I'm very glad I got my manager to support the idea of us all getting 'content' in our job titles two years ago, as I think it's helped make us all more employable!
 
e2a - been delayed in making this reply by external factors, so please ignore if no longer relevant / helpful
Another thing I've realised from having to watch/listen to myself back when transcribing interviews and such is my voice can sound quite nasal and droney (which is disappointing as it sounds quite nice and cultured in my head!) so sometimes when hosting meetings etc I've actually added side notes to remind myself to vary cadence and maybe pitch up slightly. I fear otherwise I could sound quite dull and jobsworth.
Oh I hate listening to recordings of myself, especially if I'm "pontificating" ...

We never see ourselves as others see us - should also be we never hear ourselves as others hear us.

[because of the way sound travels in our skulls and in the air, or so I understand ...]
 
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