Firing employee

[lizzieloo]

I got the boot the other day from a job I've been in for about ten years, it's a zero hours job and since January I've had no hours.

They just sent my P45, no letter, nothing else, just that.

Cunts.

 

[David Clapson]

That's awful. I hope something better turns up.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

That's a proper shitty way to be treated lizzieloo

 

[A380]

Ignore people here with their snidey comments; they all live in a magic money tree fantasy land, except for the ones who are bosses and spend a lot of effort pretending they aren't.

You’d base your sales force recruitment strategy on whether you thought candidates had elbows or some such bizarre criteria based upon your obsessions.

 

[A380]

I got the boot the other day from a job I've been in for about ten years, it's a zero hours job and since January I've had no hours.

They just sent my P45, no letter, nothing else, just that.

Cunts.

That’s appalling behaviour from the company.

 

[andysays]

Thinking back to my days as an employer...

 

[andysays]

You’d base your sales force recruitment strategy on whether you thought candidates had elbows or some such bizarre criteria based upon your obsessions.

No lock on toilet door: no job

 

[Johnny Doe]

I await the OP's 'how hard is reasonable to beat my cleaner if she hasn't paid the rent?' thread with great interest

 

[platinumsage]

No customer knows or cares what their car salesman does at the weekend or thinks about COVID or brexit.

 

[blairsh]

No customer knows or cares what their car salesman does at the weekend or thinks about COVID or brexit.

But should always be sure, car salesman are cunts.

 

[mikedescala]

I await the OP's 'how hard is reasonable to beat my cleaner if she hasn't paid the rent?' thread with great interest

I’m not a landlord

 

[mikedescala]

I got the boot the other day from a job I've been in for about ten years, it's a zero hours job and since January I've had no hours.

They just sent my P45, no letter, nothing else, just that.

Cunts.

That’s not right and hopefully you get a job soon
I don’t agree with zero hours contracts
As an employer I try to be fair but I also have to look after the business

 

[farmerbarleymow]

As an employer I try to be fair but I also have to look after the business

And also realise that you only need to worry about what happens while the employees are at work, and not what they may choose to do outside of work.

 

[mikedescala]

And also realise that you only need to worry about what happens while the employees are at work, and not what they may choose to do outside of work.

Yes I’m aware of that and it was the reason for my post if I have no grounds about what happens outside far enough but as mentioned I thought it could have a negative impact on the business

 

[Pickman's model]

That’s not right and hopefully you get a job soon
I don’t agree with zero hours contracts
As an employer I try to be fair but I also have to look after the business

Your business won't prosper if you shit on employee morale

 

[farmerbarleymow]

Yes I’m aware of that and it was the reason for my post if I have no grounds about what happens outside far enough but as mentioned I thought it could have a negative impact on the business

That's unlikely unless the employee concerned is raising issues in the workplace in an inappropriate way - you've said he does a good job so it sounds like this isn't the case. You've said you've seen some customers leaving after seeing him - it's extremely unlikely that is the reason, even if the employee was pictured on the front page of the local rag on a demo. It sounds more likely you're being a bit paranoid and seeing patterns where they don't exist.

 

[mikedescala]

That's unlikely unless the employee concerned is raising issues in the workplace in an inappropriate way - you've said he does a good job so it sounds like this isn't the case. You've said you've seen some customers leaving after seeing him - it's extremely unlikely that is the reason, even if the employee was pictured on the front page of the local rag on a demo. It sounds more likely you're being a bit paranoid and seeing patterns where they don't exist.

Possibly again this is the reason for my question
Do I have grounds to do anything or do I leave it
I think the best course of action is an informal mention of how outside activities can reflect on your work

 

[farmerbarleymow]

Do I have grounds to do anything

No.

Everything you've said points in that direction - the individual can do what they like in their own time, and unless they're breaking the law it should be of no concern of yours.

 

[platinumsage]

Even if I went somewhere and was greeted by a salesman who was the county's most-wanted nonce and I'd seen their mugshot all over the news I still would be highly unlikely to make the association. Customers just want to buy their stuff without getting ripped off and then leave - the possible extra-curricular activities of any staff they meet don't tend to enter their heads.

 

[Pickman's model]

Possibly again this is the reason for my question
Do I have grounds to do anything or do I leave it
I think the best course of action is an informal mention of how outside activities can reflect on your work

The best course of action would be to stop acting like a wanker and hope your employee never sees this thread

 

[farmerbarleymow]

I still would be highly unlikely to make the association.

Same with me. It'd be very unlikely that I'd recognise someone who'd been on the front page of the paper - except perhaps in extreme cases if they looked like Harold Shipman or something.

 

[bimble]

I am curious, how did you choose this website mike, to join especially to ask your question on ?

 

[farmerbarleymow]

Why don't you join your employee on one of the demos mikedescala to see what it's all about?

You might not agree with his political views but so what - you'd quite possibly be on dodgy ground firing him for those views, except in certain limited cases (e.g. the police can sack people who belong to certain far-right organisations - which is fair enough). I'm sure I work with people who's politics would appall me, but we just don't talk about the subject at work so it avoids the issue.

 

[existentialist]

They don’t give the views in work or push them to customers

Actually, the only way to be sure about this is to fire ALL your employees. I mean, even if they've not said anything on social media, they've probably all had bad thoughts about you from time to time. Get rid. And burn down the premises, too, to be on the safe side.

 

[Pickman's model]

Actually, the only way to be sure about this is to fire ALL your employees. I mean, even if they've not said anything on social media, they've probably all had bad thoughts about you from time to time. Get rid. And burn down the premises, too, to be on the safe side.

And then make like thich quang duc

 

[krtek a houby]

only hari-kiwi will suffice

or seppuku

 

[nogojones]

I love covid it worked wonders for my business dropped at least 50% this year

 

[ruffneck23]

And then make like thich quang duc

Blimey

 

[xenon]

Are you the real Mike De Scala of Ultrabeat?

 

[nogojones]

Thinking back to my days as an employer, if I had an employee who was a Leaver or anti-vaxxer, I'd think "how the fuck did a moron get through the interviews?" I'd consider firing myself for inept hiring. Then I'd scrutinise every bit of the idiot's work and find enough incompetence to dismiss them. The OP must be in a low-skilled industry where any idiot can do the job. In which case I'd kill myself or burn it all down for the insurance.

That's more like it.