Firing employee

[bimble]

How are you measuring teucher's performance? From here it looks like he's hitting most his targets, and often knocks it out of the park. You've got some formulas all fucked on your spreadsheet or something.

When I first mistakenly joined this website it was in order to shout about a very local issue, and teuchter, my then-neighbour, successfully drove me up the wall with his infuriatingness but he has consistently fallen short of achieving anything similar since.
It is possible that, on that particular issue, he may actually possibly have had a point, so in a way its not a fair comparison, but i'm the boss so whatever.

 

[JuanTwoThree]

random strangers

Strange randoms more like

 

[teuchter]

When I first mistakenly joined this website it was in order to shout about a very local issue, and teuchter, my then-neighbour, successfully drove me up the wall with his infuriatingness but he has consistently fallen short of achieving anything similar since.
It is possible that, on that particular issue, he may actually possibly have had a point, so in a way its not a fair comparison, but i'm the boss so whatever.

Surely being so right in an argument, that a dissenter has to leave not just the neighbourhood but the city, is a notable enough achievement and one that should carry credits forward into subsequent years of success accounting.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

he has consistently fallen short of achieving anything similar since

Should be his tagline really.

(((teuchter)))

 

[TopCat]

no way this is making 5 pages

Ha!

 

[killer b]

I rejoice in my occasional wrong calls. It just proves that even the best of us fuck up from time to time, and perhaps we should all be a little more magnanimous when we get things wrong.

 

[TopCat]

Thinking back to my days as an employer, if I had an employee who was a Leaver or anti-vaxxer, I'd think "how the fuck did a moron get through the interviews?" I'd consider firing myself for inept hiring. Then I'd scrutinise every bit of the idiot's work and find enough incompetence to dismiss them. The OP must be in a low-skilled industry where any idiot can do the job. In which case I'd kill myself or burn it all down for the insurance.

You would have tried to sack staff for voting leave? Step away from recruitment please.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

It just proves that even the best of us fuck up from time to time, and perhaps we should all be a little more magnanimous when we get things wrong.

Like teuchter?

 

[TopCat]

No customer knows or cares what their car salesman does at the weekend or thinks about COVID or brexit.

If there was known BNP in a motorcycle or car repair shop I would not use them.

 

[A380]

When I first mistakenly joined this website it was in order to shout about a very local issue, and teuchter, my then-neighbour, successfully drove me up the wall with his infuriatingness but he has consistently fallen short of achieving anything similar since.
It is possible that, on that particular issue, he may actually possibly have had a point, so in a way its not a fair comparison, but i'm the boss so whatever.

I'm glad you are in charge of him. He appears to have latched himself on to me as sense of humour coach, and someone to help him over come his bizarre, yet deep seated and often mentioned fear of Moomins. Might I suggest you set him a SMART action plan (three months) to increase his knowledge in relation to women having elbows.

 

[planetgeli]

When I first mistakenly joined this website it was in order to shout about a very local issue,

Why did you mistakenly join a second time?

 

[bimble]

Why did you mistakenly join a second time?

You know the 12 step thing about accepting the things you cannot change? it was a bit like that.

 

[two sheds]

Ignore this clown. Obviously never heard of performance-related pay. Probably because performance is something only other people do.

Yep I've heard of piece work, too, which is the ultimate in "performance-related pay".

And (as in this case) high-pressure sales techniques. If your rent, or Jemima's private school term fees (depending on which end of the scale you're on), is decided by commission then of course your sales force is going to sell customers any old shit whether they need it or not. I'd prefer to see peoples' work determined by quality rather than rushed shit because they're on commission.

 

[equationgirl]

I'll take that.

My wife's school - she's a deputy head - has let go a teacher on a fixed term contract at least in large part because of their behaviour on their personal social media, and their linking it to the Schools social media.

There's other stuff as well, he's lazy, he's unprofessional, petulant, but it's the SM stuff that broke the camel's back.

And so - let the Games begin!

The key bit there is 'linked to the School's social media'. If his social media is stand-alone toxic batshittery, it's of no concern to the employer.

Plus, the employer should have a social media policy spelling out if access is allowed/not allowed during work hours (Facebook may not be allowed but LinkedIn is) and if the disciplinary policy applies to breaches (spoiler alert: it usually does).

mikedescala you pay this guy to do a job, which you say he's doing well and is punctual. You don't have to like him on a personal level, just be professional with him.

Also, you seem to be saying other people are telling you about his social media posts, not that you've seen them yourself. I strongly recommend you rise about second hand gossip and shut this shit down. You're the owner. You set the standard of behaviour.

 

[equationgirl]

This is true. I've been trying to check it, because it's not mentioned in government advice which I linked to upthread. Seems like quite a serious omission. Here's some detail from an employment lawyer. It's a very long C&P, but at least it's clear. The source is Dismissing an Employee with less than 2 Years' Service | DavidsonMorris

Most employers will use a probation period to determine if someone is suited for the role. The longer it goes on the harder it may be to justify letting someone go.

 

[telbert]

Only read the first page but I think you need prison you cunt. I may be wrong.