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newbie said:
I've asked a poster on these boards to explain their behaviour. Do you have a problem with that?

You've made it very clear that something that concerns me is of little or no interest to you. Fine. I'm not particularly exercised about the billboard on CHL and d'you know what, I haven't posted on your thread to tell you that.
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I've responded because you suggested that I was guilty of some sort of moderation bias towards them. That is simply untrue.
 
Brixton Hatter said:
The yuppie bar had been closed for a good few years before the building was used as a butchers. The signage was erected without planning permission in flagrant breach of planning laws. It also looked fucking shit. That was why people were annoyed.
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I was annoyed about the butchers signage as well.

As it happens I find the farmers market signage rather less annoying, but that doesn't mean that in principle it's fine for it to be there. It's not a major problem at present, as far as I can see from the pictures posted, but in the long term, if that kind of advertising is allowed, it'll just proliferate, as happens in some places and then they have to have a crackdown -

If you asked me to choose between the billboard outside the Barrier Block (and the ones in the middle of loughborough Junction) being removed, and the Farmer's Market signage being removed, I'd choose the former. However there isn't currently any legal justification for doing this.

If you asked me to choose between the farmers market adverts being allowed to stay or not, I'd say get rid of them because they set a bad precedent.

Just because it's a minor complaint relative to others regarding Brixton town centre, doesn't invalidate it.

And I agree with Newbie that it's kind of a bit off for the Farmers Market people to post, effectively, adverts on the forum, and ignore any feedback/questions being put to them.
 
editor said:
I've responded because you suggested that I was guilty of some sort of moderation bias towards them. That is simply untrue.
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you responded to my initial post about adbikes with this
editor said:
I can get worked up about a lot of things, but this is not one of them.

The market was really busy this morning. It's a great addition to Brixton.
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since then you've posted about twice as much as I have.
 
teuchter said:
And I agree with Newbie that it's kind of a bit off for the Farmers Market people to post, effectively, adverts on the forum, and ignore any feedback/questions being put to them.
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The have answered questions from posters in the past but, like any poster they're not obliged to do so.
 
newbie said:
sfaik Footlocker didn't make a conscious decision to burn their building down, nor do they turn up on this fine community oriented forum to regularly post spam promoting their business. The same goes for all the other things people have mentioned that irk them more than these adbikes (plural) and the blackboard that blocks the pavement.

I know the editor is happy for that particular business (and only that one business) to use his boards for regular free advertising despite the fact that they never, ever post anything but spam. That's his call.

From my point of view, however, this is an open thread and as I know that Londonfarmers post here it seems the obvious place to ask them to explain their antisocial behaviour. Of course, if the editor objects to me using his boards to question them I will, of course, desist.
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Newbie - you're going to give yourself an ulcer. There are worse things to worry about; honestly. And tbh your vendatta is a bit dull.
 
Nanker Phelge said:
Is capitalism ok if the sausages taste nice?
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I can rant long and hard on the evils of rampant capitalism, but I'd probably be missing the real target if I directed my ire at a small farmers market.

PS I don't like their sausages. They're full of meat.
 
editor said:
I can rant long and hard on the evils of rampant capitalism, but I'd probably be missing the real target if I directed my ire at a small farmers market.
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I don't often rant long and hard but I do expect reasonable standards of behaviour from large and small alike, perhaps with a particular expectation from those that like to promote themselves as somehow more ethical or more acceptable than other businesses. Why not?

Anyway sfaics it's just an enterprise like any other, out to make money, but unlike other businesses this particular one has chosen to grab publicly provided bike parking and prime pavement space for it's own gain. I don't think that's reasonable.
 
newbie said:
Anyway sfaics it's just an enterprise like any other, out to make money, but unlike other businesses this particular one has chosen to grab publicly provided bike parking and prime pavement space for it's own gain. I don't think that's reasonable.
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With all the publicity you've given to this bike (which I've yet to see, btw) they must be glad about your intervention here.
 
editor said:
With all the publicity you've given to this bike (which I've yet to see, btw) they must be glad about your intervention here.
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Who is 'they'? The market or the man?
 
bikes plural, there's one in the racks by the tube and one outside KFC. I've not noticed others. I do wonder, though, whether they've done this in any of the other umpteen places in London they put their shopping opportunities.
 
I noticed a big black board sign at the entrance to the market by boots this morning, for Brixton Market. On the pavement. Didn't read it. I was too busy tripping over it.

More Sign of the Crimes.
 
I saw the bike outside KFC on my way into work this morning and immediately thought of this discussion. :cool:

I personally can't see what the problem is.
 
Yeah! I can't possibly see what the catch is with businesses using scarce bike locking spaces to park their adverts on.

It's a wanky and thoughtless thing to do at best.
 
Aye, there are a lot of blackboards around. What distinguished the one I complained about last week was it's positioning centrally on the narrow bit of usable pavement under the high level bridge where it would have maximum advertising effect, and cause maximum obstruction. By contrast there was one for the Makers Market at the junction of Station Road and Popes Road which, while I don't think it should be there, was placed in such a way that it didn't cause an obstruction, at least for sighted people.
Chilavert said:
I saw the bike outside KFC on my way into work this morning and immediately thought of this discussion. :cool:

I personally can't see what the problem is.
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you can't see any problem with private businesses taking possession of public property for advertising? Really? Or are you simply saying you're not a cyclist and don't care in this particular instance?
 
newbie said:
What distinguished the one I complained about last week was it's positioning centrally on the narrow bit of usable pavement under the high level bridge where it would have maximum advertising effect, and cause maximum obstruction.
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I saw a small child walk smack bang into it today. They had their head turned, talking to their Mum. If the bike hadn't got a board on it I don't think any harm would have been done but it's in a bottleneck and it was dark and the board is predominantly black. The bike itself is a bit of a wreck too. I was slightly annoyed before on a 'That's a bit cheeky' basis, but now I see that it's there 24/7 and a hazard I'm more than slightly annoyed, so I'm now standing with newbie on this one.
 
Mrs Magpie said:
I saw a small child walk smack bang into it today. They had their head turned, talking to their Mum. If the bike hadn't got a board on it I don't think any harm would have been done but it's in a bottleneck and it was dark and the board is predominantly black. The bike itself is a bit of a wreck too. I was slightly annoyed before on a 'That's a bit cheeky' basis, but now I see that it's there 24/7 and a hazard I'm more than slightly annoyed, so I'm now standing with newbie on this one.
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without the board he might have lost an eye on some sticky out bit of bike. That board may have saved that young lad's sight.

That board is a hero.
 
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