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I'm going to start banning people off this thread for a few days if they continue the off topic disruption.

Think before you post people!
 
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Fascinating. But there are still plenty of free toilets for people to have a wash and brush up, so not all protesters can be derided as being 'stinky' which I believe was the childish and dismissive point being brought up. Just like that twat Boris claimed.

The end.
Who on this thread are you accusing of childishly and dismissively deriding protesters as stinky?

Maybe you should start a thread about this fascinating topic because this one has been taken off topic long enough.
TBH, you appear to be primarily responsible for the tortuous diversion the thread had taken.

I genuinely am stinky after two days pruning damp shrubs, so I will be taking a break from posting here for a couple of hours while I stick my laundry in the machine and have a bath. Hopefully everyone will be a bit more flagrant when I return.
 
Who on this thread are you accusing of childishly and dismissively deriding protesters as stinky?


TBH, you appear to be primarily responsible for the tortuous diversion the thread had taken.

I genuinely am stinky after two days pruning damp shrubs, so I will be taking a break from posting here for a couple of hours while I stick my laundry in the machine and have a bath. Hopefully everyone will be a bit more flagrant when I return.
flagrant? fragrant?
 
Yeah, so the procession started in Whitehall Gardens and then looped round down Northumberland Avenue and Great Scotland Yard down to Whitehall itself. It has been going round for a while now - people are walking very slowly. It stopped outside the Department for International Development where there was a short speech relating to that, then turned around down to Downing Street, paused there, then moved on again. When I left people were walking down King Charles St.

The theme was "Red Hands". with lots of people with their hands painted red, which would relate to the thing above about spraypainting, though I didn't see any of that going on. Red Rebels were there obviously. I think I have way too many pictures of them - they are too photogenic, and it's a bit distracting.

I think any large event you see in the next couple of days is going to be a march. In this case the cops clearly didn't know where it was going but they mostly just let it go past, occasionally running around. There were apparently some arrests (I heard a few calls for legal observers, or rather, shouts of "Mic check! (Mic check!) Legal observer! (Legal observer!) Near the front! (Near the front!) On the left! (On the left!)" which does actually work).

Only phone pics but will see what i've got.
 
Who on this thread are you accusing of childishly and dismissively deriding protesters as stinky?


TBH, you appear to be primarily responsible for the tortuous diversion the thread had taken.

I genuinely am stinky after two days pruning damp shrubs, so I will be taking a break from posting here for a couple of hours while I stick my laundry in the machine and have a bath. Hopefully everyone will be a bit more flagrant when I return.
Do you disagree with the point that terms such as 'crusty' or 'stinky' are used to dismiss XR and its activists? If not, what the suffering fuck are you dribbling on about?
 
I've never heard of DOUBLE X black and white, but the webpage sure looks edgy and yoofy!
EASTMAN DOUBLE-X Black & White Negative Film 5222/7222 | Motion Picture Film

Look forward to seeing your results!
It's one of their classic black and white movie stocks - it was used to shoot a lot of famous films like Raging Bull and Schindler's List. Kodak doesn't sell it in individual rolls but other people buy the big 400' rolls and respool them for use in still cameras. I thought I'd give it a shot, it's supposed to have a lot of character.
 
Do you disagree with the point that terms such as 'crusty' or 'stinky' are used to dismiss XR and its activists? If not, what the suffering fuck are you dribbling on about?
Sorry, but I've made a few 24 hour bans to stop this thread turning into a complete joke, so you'll have to wait for an answer. And yes, I agree with your point.
 
editor has put an s14 on the thread :D

Sorry.

...but whatever reservations, and criticisms, I have of XR (and there are many) I don't want them to be lumped in with the manufactured backlash that is promoted by the usual suspects.

XR need to be smart right now, I think they've hit a critical moment.
 
Them as well but I was thinking more along these lines.


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I know it's all a big joke to you, but whether you support them or not, Extinction Rebellion is an important political development. It's really not appropriate to disrupt this thread to the point that it becomes about something as trite as toilets in Elgin or the quality of the ones near you - unless of course that is your aim.

I'll ask politely that posters now stay on topic as this thread is reaching the point of no return.

This is the "you plural" sense, I assume.
The Geordies are well ahead on this one.
 


Nick Cave's q&a email newsletter, which is really good and worth subscribing to, is also called "The Red Hand Files".


Which leads on to his song being used for Peaky Blinders...and makes me wonder briefly if XR are piggybacking on that with what looks like a triumph of style over substance.

And for a demo in a massive inclusive city on a Friday afternoon I can see one black face in all those pictures. It does look very white, middle class...safe.

How much is this really bothering those in power? I mean, it looks great and everything, some iconic images an’ all. But what’s the plan? Because it looks a bit adrift.
 
Disruption + arrests = the government solves the problem (+ maybe citizen's assemblies)

I think that is about the extent of their politics and strategy for social change.
 
Stop fucking about and discuss the topic of the thread please.

The only thing that surprises me at this point is that you think you are facilitating something at this point, as opposed to causing further disruption. I think you are just in a mood where you want to shut someone up.
Actually meaningful discussions about and involving XR are going on in lots of places, so do whatever makes you a tiny bit happier, it makes zero difference to anything.
 
The Red Hand of Ulster is hardly an exclusively loyalist symbol, it's origins go back much further as a legitimising myth for O'Neill hegemony in the province.
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ETA: You can just about make it out in this republican mural, which features four circles bearing the coat of arms of the four province of Ireland. Ulster is third from the right.
 
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