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One commentator said that it's the furthest forward part of the body that you can legally play the ball with, which makes more sense than it used to. If that was white attacking he'd correspondingly be onside.

Next season's VAR will be hugely better if they use these systems and models and things. I look forward to the time their snickometery type thing can spot when someone falls over themselves in a tackle but pretends it's a penalty.
 
I have been very sceptical of the idea of 24 teams. Too many. But Turkey v Georgia was an amazing advert for the expanded tournament. Georgia were desperately unlucky not to take something from that. That's how to approach a game of football. Bloody hell. Totally fearless. Took two very special strikes from Turkey to beat them.
 
The39thStep said:
Where is the advantage in this ?

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How do you legislate for that, though? In real time, it looked level, kind of towards offside but you'd think the linesperson would never flag. They'd see it as level.

Either you have VAR and it has some place where it judges offside/onside or you don't. If you do, you're always going to get marginal calls like this. TBH after seeing the replay, it looked like it would be given offside. With the rules as they are now, it's almost like it was in the old days wrt what attackers need to be thinking. They need to be thinking 'something of me needs to be behind the defender, if I think I'm level, I'm probably offside'.

The rule as it is now, as interpreted by VAR, actually makes no sense. Nobody is ever exactly level. Zoom in enough and they're always either behind or in front. There's no such thing as level with an accurate VAR, so you may as well change the rule and remove the word 'level'. 'Level' is a concept directed towards a human eye level of accuracy, not a VAR level of accuracy.
 
A few Dutch fans get it a little bit wrong

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littlebabyjesus said:
How do you legislate for that, though? In real time, it looked level, kind of towards offside but you'd think the linesperson would never flag. They'd see it as level.

Either you have VAR and it has some place where it judges offside/onside or you don't. If you do, you're always going to get marginal calls like this. TBH after seeing the replay, it looked like it would be given offside. With the rules as they are now, it's almost like it was in the old days wrt what attackers need to be thinking. They need to be thinking 'something of me needs to be behind the defender, if I think I'm level, I'm probably offside'.

The rule as it is now, as interpreted by VAR, actually makes no sense. Nobody is ever exactly level. Zoom in enough and they're always either behind or in front. There's no such thing as level with an accurate VAR, so you may as well change the rule and remove the word 'level'. 'Level' is a concept directed towards a human eye level of accuracy, not a VAR level of accuracy.
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I'd rather have just the assistant referee's decision than use the sort of technology used in greyhound races to separate the winner by a nose tbh . VAR is no good for supporters, especially those in the ground and its use is attracting the wrong sort of viewer. I'd scrap it and that thing in the ball borrowed from cricket.
 
tommers said:
He's offside, what's the problem. Either have the rule or don't. You can score with your head.

He headed it back to Jota from that position didn't he?
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Or have the rules decided by the referee on the pitch which is how the vast majority of football across the world is played.
 
two sheds said:
His leg isn't the furthest point forward of his body (that can legally play the ball) though.
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Yes, his head, shoulder and leg are all in front of the defender. How anyone can whinge about the decision, I’ve no idea.

Not in the spirit of the law ffs 😂
 
The39thStep said:
Or have the rules decided by the referee on the pitch which is how the vast majority of football across the world is played.
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And scrap that nonsensical rubbish goal line technology, too. The idea of cameras to see whether the ball actually crossed the line or not when you can have a referee 30 yards away without a good view but able to make a snap decision :thumbs:
 
I think this semi auto offside thing has been a revelation tbh. Like goal line tech. I dont even really associate it with VAR. It's black and white, decision in seconds. Great.




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