Ethnic Composition of Brixton...

[Treacle Toes]

I'm being accused of being 'intolerant' - but those doing the accusing are in themselves being intolerant of my views.

Let me get this straight.
You do not understand why other posters are intolerant of your intolerance?

 

[ajdown]

Not even getting as far as interviews then?

I haven't been looking perhaps as actively as I could or should be for a new job, but nope.

I think a lot of it is that I'm looking to move from London to a different part of the country, and people get nervous about having people relocating for a job in case it doesn't somehow work out (unless of course it's a job that offers a relocation package).

They can't understand why I'd want to move from 'high paying London' to somewhere else, and they can't match what they think I'm getting at the moment - although my salary is clearly stated on the form where asked (not that I think it's any of their damn business but that's another discussion) and as I work for a charity is is going to be lower-paid than London but in fact on a par for what a similar non-charity job would pay outside of London. Plus, of course, the cost of living is much cheaper.

My girlfriend's parents house in Lincolnshire - 4 bedroom detatched with large garden - is in the same council tax band as my one bedroom flat with a garden big enough for a wheelie bin on Brixton Hill.

 

[cesare]

How do you know that's what they're thinking?

 

[ajdown]

Have you tried contacting the organisations in question for feedback on why your not getting the job?

If that doesnt worl you can always make a request under the Data Protection Act on any information they have on you, this may give you an idea on why you werent selected if theres selection/interview panel notes etc.

I did ask with the last one, because I really really wanted that job (rather than 'its a job up there' ) but they haven't gotten back to me yet although the request had been passed on.

I'm a bit reluctant to go down the 'official' line in case it damages my chances with that organisation (which is very large) for other positions in the future - it could simply be that they had a lot of applications and there were more qualified people than me applying.

 

[Belushi]

I think a lot of it is that I'm looking to move from London to a different part of the country, and people get nervous about having people relocating for a job in case it doesn't somehow work out (unless of course it's a job that offers a relocation package).

Yeah, thats a real problem. Any chance you could use your girlfriends address (if its that part of the country your moving to) for job app's etc? that may help.

 

[ajdown]

Yeah, thats a real problem. Any chance you could use your girlfriends address (if its that part of the country your moving to) for job app's etc? that may help.

It's possible I guess, even though I state clearly on the form that I am waiting for a suitable job to be able to move to the area.

The problem is that I can't afford to move up there until I have a job up there to go to (commuting there from London would add 4 hours to each end of the day and is just completely impractical both timewise and costwise) plus I want to get out of London anyway.

Surely though, isn't it some form of discrimination? "Local Jobs for Local People" all sounds a bit Royston Vasey to me.

 

[Belushi]

I did ask with the last one, because I really really wanted that job (rather than 'its a job up there' ) but they haven't gotten back to me yet although the request had been passed on.

I'm a bit reluctant to go down the 'official' line in case it damages my chances with that organisation (which is very large) for other positions in the future - it could simply be that they had a lot of applications and there were more qualified people than me applying.

Like you, I work in the charity sector and it can be really competitive for jobs - friends in city jobs etc sometimes say they'd like to move to the charity sector not realising how hard we work and how bloody competitive the charity jobs market is!

 

[cesare]

ajdown, if you know what the issue is, why have you been giving it large about positive discrimination in favour of ethnic minorities & age discriminatory adverts?

 

[ajdown]

Like you, I work in the charity sector and it can be really competitive for jobs - friends in city jobs etc sometimes say they'd like to move to the charity sector not realising how hard we work and how bloody competitive the charity jobs market is!

Mine is simply an administrative position (although I'm indirectly dealing with 120 staff and it brings in fundraising worth about £3 million a year so it's not exactly office junior stuff) - but the skills I am using are transferable to any office job, or one that involves paperwork, dealing with people, planning etc. However, the last 2 jobs I applied for (and didn't get an interview) weren't for charity sector jobs.

You're right... like you, I probably work as hard as some of the city types for a fraction of the salary.

 

[ajdown]

ajdown, if you know what the issue is, why have you been giving it large about positive discrimination in favour of ethnic minorities & age discriminatory adverts?

I have no idea what the reason really is. It might be that the person looking at the forms has an allergy to the letter W, and as I have two in my real name my application is just tossed aside?

W allergies aren't that rare, you know

 

[cesare]

I have no idea what the reason really is. It might be that the person looking at the forms has an allergy to the letter W, and as I have two in my real name my application is just tossed aside?

W allergies aren't that rare, you know

Well your suspected reason sounds an awful lot more likely than the ones you were banging on about earlier.

 

[ajdown]

Well your suspected reason sounds an awful lot more likely than the ones you were banging on about earlier.

Big companies are more likely to be concerned about employing the 'right amount of BME candidates' rather than taking people solely on the merits of their particular application.

 

[cesare]

Big companies are more likely to be concerned about employing the 'right amount of BME candidates' rather than taking people solely on the merits of their particular application.

Big companies are more likely to be concerned about minimising the risk of unlimited compensation for successful discrimination* claims and will do quite a lot to ensure that doesn't happen - I think you'll find.


* Yes, that includes positive discrimination.

 

[Belushi]

Big companies are more likely to be concerned about minimising the risk of unlimited compensation for successful discrimination* claims and will do quite a lot to ensure that doesn't happen - I think you'll find.


* Yes, that includes positive discrimination.

Yup, thats my experience.

 

[Blagsta]

I'm being accused of being 'intolerant' - but those doing the accusing are in themselves being intolerant of my views.

 

[Crispy]

These sort of threads always end up this way. Question:What's the ethnic makeup of area X. Answer: Here's the census data.

Any posts past those two are guarunteed to be bunfight. Or at least cupcakefight.

 

[cesare]

These sort of threads always end up this way. Question:What's the ethnic makeup of area X. Answer: Here's the census data.

Any posts past those two are guarunteed to be bunfight. Or at least cupcakefight.

So what? Are you suggesting that we don't respond to these views in the interests of a peaceful board?

 

[Thimble Queen]

Whats a bunfight?

 

[Crispy]

So what? Are you suggesting that we don't respond to these views in the interests of a peaceful board?

Course not, just making an observation