Ethnic Composition of Brixton...

[Thimble Queen]

Some boy in the library made a stupid joke at my boyfriend about how he'd be the only white man in brixton, grrrr!

There was a link posted recently maybe by crispy, with this information but i cant find it!

Please help I want to tell the bigot to shut up! x x

 

[ajdown]

You talking about the 2001 census at http://www.lambeth.gov.uk/Services/...nsusInformation/BrixtonHillWardDataTables.htm for Brixton Hill, or http://www.lambeth.gov.uk/Services/...ormation/LambethBoroughCensus2001Data0505.htm for Lambeth generally?

It's on page 2 for Brixton Hill, or you have to dig a bit for "Sex and age by ethnic group" in the Lambeth one.

Brixton Hill, "White British" 51.2%

Only just a majority. That's taking overall, and certainly specific areas are going to be majority non-White British.

Lambeth, "White British" 131,939 (49.5%) out of 266,187, leaving 134,248 (50.5%) of "everything else".

Using simple 'first to 50%' statistics, it shows that "White British" is a minority in Brixton.

 

[trashpony]

You talking about the 2001 census at http://www.lambeth.gov.uk/Services/...nsusInformation/BrixtonHillWardDataTables.htm for Brixton Hill, or http://www.lambeth.gov.uk/Services/...ormation/LambethBoroughCensus2001Data0505.htm for Lambeth generally?

It's on page 2 for Brixton Hill, or you have to dig a bit for "Sex and age by ethnic group" in the Lambeth one.

Brixton Hill, "White British" 51.2%

Only just a majority. That's taking overall, and certainly specific areas are going to be majority non-White British.

Lambeth, "White British" 131,939 (49.5%) out of 266,187, leaving 134,248 (50.5%) of "everything else".

Using simple 'first to 50%' statistics, it shows that "White British" is a minority in Brixton.

If nearly 50% of Lambeth's population are white british people, then they are the majority of the population, not the minority. You utter tool.

 

[Crispy]

Here's what I posted before:

Here, I've done the work for you. This data is from the 2001 census and includes the 5 central Brixton wards (Coldharbour,Tulse Hill,Ferndale,Herne Hill,Brixton Hill)

All People				64656
White: British				28732
Black or Black British: Caribbean	10355
Black or Black British: African		8506
White: Other White			6352
White: Irish				1955
Black or Black British: Other Black	1787
Mixed: White and Black Caribbean	1513
Mixed: Other Mixed			831
Chinese or other ethnic group: Chinese	768
Asian or Asian British: Indian		763
Chinese or other ethnic group:		738
Mixed: White and Black African		574
Asian or Asian British: Bangladeshi	537
Mixed: White and Asian			495
Asian or Asian British: Other Asian	398
Asian or Asian British: Pakistani	352

White British isn't quite a 50+ majority, but if you count Irish and Other White, then the magical 50% line is crossed.

 

[ajdown]

If nearly 50% of Lambeth's population are white british people, then they are the majority of the population, not the minority. You utter tool.

Everything else except White British is more than 50% so they're the majority when they're all added together.

On a traffic light, 66% of the lights are not red. Just because the three lights are equally represented doesn't make any of them a majority.

I don't think the breakdown is any more detailed but there must be areas of Brixton where 'White British' is a tiny minority - although, of course, there are areas where it will be a clear majority.

You can't add 'White Irish' to the British percentage because, if they were British, they'd define themselves as 'White British'. Just because they're White it doesn't make them automatically British any more than it would someone from Poland or Italy just because they hapen to live here.

 

[Athos]

Do you really need statistics? Why not just tell him to 'FUCK OFF!'?

 

[happyshopper]

Wikipedia says "A majority, also known as a simple majority in the U.S., is a subset of a group that is more than half of the entire group. This should not be confused with a plurality, which is a subset having the largest number of parts. A plurality is not necessarily a majority, as the largest subset may be less than half of the entire group."

So, at the time of the census, "White British" constituted a plurality but not a majority. However, the original post referred to someone being the only "white man" in Brixton, not the only "white Briton". Leaving the sexism on one side, it is clear from these 2001 figures that the majority of people in Brixton were white. My guess is that by now the proportion is a bit higher.

 

[newbie]

Do you really need statistics? Why not just tell him to 'FUCK OFF!'?

what on earth would be the point. This pointless taunt has been trotted out for decades by know-nothings and will continue for the rest of ever. Like any other obvious troll, it's not worth stressing about, or responding to.

 

[trashpony]

Everything else except White British is more than 50% so they're the majority when they're all added together.

They're the majority when compared to all other groups. In any case, the OP didn't ask about British, she only asked about race. You were the one who brought the British bit into it.

 

[Oswaldtwistle]

EDIT: Oh ignore me- crispy has already done the maths for us!!

 

[playghirl]

I am one of the 6352 white other!!!!!

 

[ajdown]

You were the one who brought the British bit into it.

It's a pity we can't break it down to Britain's component parts. I'm sure "White English" is even less.

 

[quimcunx]

It is, I was surprised how many scottish people there are here.

And why is it a pity? So we could put everyone into little enclaves, turning Brixton into a little Venn diagram of nationalities and skin shades?

 

[ajdown]

So we could put everyone into little enclaves, turning Brixton into a little Venn diagram of nationalities and skin shades?

I'm just curious as to what the % of people classing themselves as 'English' are, thats all.

I'm a minority in myself. I grew up in Somerset, and would class myself as 'Wessex' which, I dare say, aren't well represented around these parts. I don't have anywhere except 'Other' to put that on forms.

By the way, Brixton is the "unofficial capital of the Jamaican, African British and Caribbean community of London" apparently.

 

[zenie]

I'm just curious as to what the % of people classing themselves as 'English' are, thats all.

But that definition doesn't affect what race you are?

I'm a minority in myself. I grew up in Somerset, and would class myself as 'Wessex' which, I dare say, aren't well represented around these parts. I don't have anywhere except 'Other' to put that on forms.

ha, do you have to try so hard to be different and marginalised or something?

By the way, Brixton is the "unofficial capital of the Jamaican, African British and Caribbean community of London" apparently.

Where's that quote from then?

 

[ajdown]

Where's that quote from then?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brixton

Yeah, I'm marginalised. The only smell of grass round these parts isn't the kind of grass I'm used to

 

[teuchter]

I seem to remember a recent survey in the Guardian or something that suggested Brixton was one of the most ethnically diverse parts of London, whilst neighbouring Herne Hill was the least.

 

[d.a.s.h]

By the way, Brixton is the "unofficial capital of the Jamaican, African British and Caribbean community of London" apparently.

What a silly quote. Peckham is likely to have a considerably higher proportion of Africans living in it than Brixton. Plus listing Jamaican and Caribbean together is redundant.

 

[quimcunx]

I seem to remember a recent survey in the Guardian or something that suggested Brixton was one of the most ethnically diverse parts of London, whilst neighbouring Herne Hill was the least.

There was something doing the rounds of the papers, possibly when the last census info was published that said Tottenham Hale won with 109 nationalities. Unfortunately I missed the actual article so didn't see where Brixton came. I'd imagine quite high up the list.

 

[cesare]

They're the majority when compared to all other groups. In any case, the OP didn't ask about British, she only asked about race. You were the one who brought the British bit into it.

Quelle surprise

Oh fuck, we'll all be speaking French next

 

[Blagsta]

Everything else except White British is more than 50% so they're the majority when they're all added together.

On a traffic light, 66% of the lights are not red. Just because the three lights are equally represented doesn't make any of them a majority.

I don't think the breakdown is any more detailed but there must be areas of Brixton where 'White British' is a tiny minority - although, of course, there are areas where it will be a clear majority.

You can't add 'White Irish' to the British percentage because, if they were British, they'd define themselves as 'White British'. Just because they're White it doesn't make them automatically British any more than it would someone from Poland or Italy just because they hapen to live here.

Not the sharpest tool in the box are you?

 

[innit]

Yeah, I'm marginalised.

Like fuck you are.

The only smell of grass round these parts isn't the kind of grass I'm used to

What's that got to do with anything?

 

[teuchter]

Some interesting maps here:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/graphic/0,5812,1395106,00.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/graphic/0,5812,1395103,00.html




This one is curious:

What's with the hotspot of "other religions" in North-west London?

 

[ajdown]

What's that got to do with anything?

It's called 'humour'. You might like to try it some day.

 

[innit]

What's with the hotspot of "other religions" in North-west London?

Wembley and Golders Green??

 

[innit]

It's called 'humour'. You might like to try it some day.

I can't see how it relates to your imagined marginalisation, even humorously

 

[boohoo]

I don't think the breakdown is any more detailed but there must be areas of Brixton where 'White British' is a tiny minority - although, of course, there are areas where it will be a clear majority.

I wouldn't say tiny majority but I expect you are right. But to what extent does anyone need to go into loads of details where people are the majority and minority?

As an anglo-american, I am a minority.

You can't add 'White Irish' to the British percentage because, if they were British, they'd define themselves as 'White British'. Just because they're White it doesn't make them automatically British any more than it would someone from Poland or Italy just because they hapen to live here.

White Irish would be most offended to be called British. They use to be the biggest minority in lambeth during the eighties.

 

[cesare]

It's called 'humour'. You might like to try it some day.

I think it's well humorous, the way you're virtually guaranteed to pop up on any race, ethnic or religious thread

 

[boohoo]

Some boy in the library made a stupid joke at my boyfriend about how he'd be the only white man in brixton, grrrr!

I once got ask why I was so pale... cos I'm white perhaps?

 

[teuchter]

Wembley and Golders Green??

There's a separate map showing Jewish populations.