Ethiopian Airlines 737 crashes on way to Kenya 157 onboard.
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2hats
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Speculation about 737 Max MCAS trim correction (a form of envelope protection) as per the Lion crash; vertical speed is erratic throughout most of the short flight.
Last ADS-B data indicates altitude about 900ft AGL but coverage is sparse and also limited due to terrain (the crash site is indicated as being further south).
Last ADS-B data indicates altitude about 900ft AGL but coverage is sparse and also limited due to terrain (the crash site is indicated as being further south).
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Crispy
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2hats
Dust.
2017 got away with no commercial scheduled flight fatalities though.
2hats
Dust.
The CVR/FDR memory modules likely will have survived. Might need people from the NTSB/BEA/AAIB to recover the data though. Sometimes even the FMS QAR can be read despite extensive mangling.
Passenger manifest suggests a lot of UN and/or NGOs on board (at least 22 nationalities plus UN passports).
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MrSki
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From BBC
Who are the victims?
Ethiopian Airlines CEO Tewolde Gebremariam told a press conference that passengers from more than 30 countries were on board the flight.
He said they included 32 Kenyans, 18 Canadians, nine Ethiopians, eight Italians, eight Chinese, eight Americans, seven Britons, seven French citizens, six Egyptians, five Dutch citizens, four Indians and four people from Slovakia.
Three Austrians, three Swedes, three Russians, two Moroccans, two Spaniards, two Poles and two Israelis were also on the flight.
There was also one passenger each from Belgium, Indonesia, Somalia, Norway, Serbia, Togo, Mozambique, Rwanda, Sudan, Uganda and Yemen.
Who are the victims?
Ethiopian Airlines CEO Tewolde Gebremariam told a press conference that passengers from more than 30 countries were on board the flight.
He said they included 32 Kenyans, 18 Canadians, nine Ethiopians, eight Italians, eight Chinese, eight Americans, seven Britons, seven French citizens, six Egyptians, five Dutch citizens, four Indians and four people from Slovakia.
Three Austrians, three Swedes, three Russians, two Moroccans, two Spaniards, two Poles and two Israelis were also on the flight.
There was also one passenger each from Belgium, Indonesia, Somalia, Norway, Serbia, Togo, Mozambique, Rwanda, Sudan, Uganda and Yemen.
T & P
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And the second major crash of the MAX-800 in three months. No evidence yet of what caused this one, but the pattern bears similarities to the Lion Air crash- both show an erratic climb rate and a crash a few minutes after takeoff.
farmerbarleymow
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Poor sods. 
weltweit
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Yep, my thought also.Poor sods.
weltweit
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I hadn't been aware of that earlier crash.
Do you know who is investigating it?
2hats
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KNKT (Indonesia) with the assistance of the NTSB and ATSB.
T & P
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I’m sure there is an independent air authority investigation as well as by the Indonesian government and Boeing. Last I heard, the MAX-800 new anti-stall technology was at the centre of that crash, but it might have been an issue of inadequate pilot training for that new technology rather than the technology itself being flawed. I don’t know if there’s been a ruling on it yet.
weltweit
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I can imagine if a pilot / co pilot hadn't read and understood that memo that they could crap themselves when the AOA actions started and caused all the other alarms indicated in the paper.
It seems a pretty critical fault in the aircraft to me, or are such critical safety work arounds common in passenger aircraft?
mauvais
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I thought this seemed unlikely, and sure enough...1932
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I like how the service bulletin notes that the error only occurs during manual flight, but then note that autopilot will automatically disengage when the error occurs. The pilots must shit themselves with this one.
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A Slovakian MP’s wife and two children on board, awful.
China has grounded all aircraft of this model, would be amazed if other countries/airlines didn’t follow suit very quickly. I have woken today to four separate customers requesting we don’t book them on this plane.
