Epistemology

[bluestreak]

this assertion is impossible to justify, because it is claiming that justification is impossible

the burden is on those who think knowledge is possible, to say how it could possibly be, how they can refute the sceptic

Horseshit. The burden is on anyone who posits a viewpoint to back theirs up. The notion that there is a default setting that is scientific or philosophical fact and can not or could not be questioned is the philosophy of tyranny, idiocy, superstition, and monothought. It is an anti-philosophic viewpoint, an anti-intellectual viewpoint, an anti-academic viewpoint. It is one that dismisses enquiry, shuns experiment, and denies questioning.


I will have no part in that sort of mindset I think.

 

[Dillinger4]

*also expects i-have-no-idea to come and perform some lapdog quip*

 

[i-am-your-idea]

Is this *really* the worst *philosophy* thread ever?

im enjoying it!

 

[Dillinger4]

Me either bluestreak. It is completely cretinous, tbh.

Its funny that those who argue they are open to the infinite possibility of nothingness are open to nothing else.

 

[bluestreak]

bluestreak disagrees with you and evidently thinks knowledge is possible somehow

Woo-hoo.

You're either one of the best wind-up merchants we've had on here since ern was given his p45 or you're even thicker than any of us suspected.

 

[Dillinger4]

im enjoying it!

Simple minds innit.

 

[i-am-your-idea]

What do you think of 9/11 and conspiracy theories, max? do you think that being able to deny that the planes were holograms makes it true?

no, the only truth is there is no truth.

we can never know what happened.

 

[max_freakout]

open to the infinite possibility of nothingness are open to nothing else.

lol

 

[i-am-your-idea]

Simple minds innit.

naive anyway

 

[Dillinger4]

You knows what I am saying, Max.

 

[Dillinger4]

naive anyway

Naive at best.

 

[max_freakout]

Nobody can refute the skeptic. But because you cannot refute a claim does not make it true.

the sceptic does not make a claim though, other people make unfounded, unjustifiable claims against the non-existent sceptical claims

What do you think of 9/11 and conspiracy theories, max? do you think that being able to deny that the planes were holograms makes it true?

i think it is impossible to know

And even so, what difference do such claims actually make to human existence? What does it matter to anybody, whether an irrefutable claim is true or not?

it matters to the epistemologist

 

[Dillinger4]

What about the holocaust? Do you know it happened? Do you think you can deny that it did?

I am getting a bit of a feeling of misunderstood post-modern nihilism, now.

 

[max_freakout]

What about the holocaust? Do you know it happened? Do you think you can deny that it did?

i cant deny that it happened (because that implies knowledge)

but i can certainly doubt that it happened

i can doubt that it didnt happen too

 

[i-am-your-idea]

Naive is best.

thanks

 

[bluestreak]

So let me get this straight - the skeptic makes no claims whatsoever about anything?

 

[max_freakout]

So let me get this straight - the skeptic makes no claims whatsoever about anything?

the sceptic isnt a person

 

[Dillinger4]

Of course they do. But it means nothing because it is empty, which proves their point entirely.

*sigh*

 

[max_freakout]

Of course they do.

How?

it is impossible to make this claim

 

[Dillinger4]

How?

it is impossible to make this claim

Exactly.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Is this *really* the worst *philosophy* thread ever?

yes

 

[Dillinger4]

For everyone else to consider it the worst, means that max and lapdog think it is the best, ever.

 

[bluestreak]

the sceptic isnt a person

So you're not a person?

 

[Dillinger4]

No such thing bluestreak. Have you learned nothing?

You cant pin anything on max. He is beyond everything.

 

[max_freakout]

So you're not a person?

i am stating the sceptical viewpoint

 

[FridgeMagnet]

No such thing bluestreak. Have you learned nothing?

You cant pin anything on max. He is beyond everything.

Or have you learnt everything - and he is beyond nothing?

Hmm. Discuss.

*strokes chin*

 

[Dillinger4]

You knew what he was saying, but just being awkward for the sake of it.

 

[Dillinger4]

Or have you learnt everything - and he is beyond nothing?

Hmm. Discuss.

*strokes chin*

How magnificently philosophical.

*grows beard*

 

[FridgeMagnet]

How magnificently philosophical.

*grows beard*

But how do you know that it is?

*grows longer beard*

 

[max_freakout]

Or have you learnt everything - and he is beyond nothing?

Hmm. Discuss.

*strokes chin*

is nothing something?