How do you know.
Epistemology
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How do you know.
bluestreak
HomosexualityIsStalin’sAtomBombtoDestroyAmerica
This.
If I've ever been more certain of anything, it only involves never watching 2girls1cup again...
Motherhood would do you good,
if giving birth was a thing you could.
You'd feel the feminine sublime,
and
you'd have tits to play with all the time...
Motherhood would do you good,
if giving birth was a thing you could.
You'd feel the feminine sublime,
and
you'd have tits to play with all the time...
mmmmmmmmmmmm exponentially
i-am-your-idea
pretty vacant
im sad that im female now 
i'm feeling much better.im sad that im female now
max_freakout
Nothing matters
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
So, what secret truth has been unearthed in the 701 posts on this thread then? Some deep truth of cosmic significance? Some new way to emancipate the global w/c in a peaceful yet effective revolution against the ruling classes?
max_freakout
Nothing matters
nothing is known, but noone wants to admit it to themselves, therefore, epistemology springs into existence
epistemology is a blanket people use to hide from the devastating truth
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
You know what Max? Most people who actually think about this stuff get past this point pretty quickly cos they realise that while it's another useful element to add to one's interpretive filter, for all practical intents and purposes it's a completely pointless argument.
It's not about hiding from the 'devastating truth' unless you're a psychedelic-fried fool - it's about realising that discussing something as self-evident as not being able to know everything for certain is stupid, and that for the purpose of living and existing in this reality I can say 'I know the sun will rise tomorrow'.
It's not about hiding from the 'devastating truth' unless you're a psychedelic-fried fool - it's about realising that discussing something as self-evident as not being able to know everything for certain is stupid, and that for the purpose of living and existing in this reality I can say 'I know the sun will rise tomorrow'.
max_freakout
Nothing matters
it is the argument which justifies the existence of epistemology
the only way a person 'gets past it' is by willfully denying its truth
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
Or just incorporates it into their view of the world and gets on with something more useful than 700 posts of dancing on a pin head, which is what you've done.
max_freakout
Nothing matters
Not epistemologists, they dedicate their lives to systematically denying the impossibility of knowledge,
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
A simple and useful thing. Something in fact, that your mother might tell you...
Then there is something deeply wrong with the world that someone can make a living out of doing this.
max_freakout
Nothing matters
that is a major conclusion i have been getting at in this thread, there is no justification for epistemology, because the answer to epistemology is very simple, knowledge is impossible
nevertheless, epistemolgy is alive and thriving
But your mother is usually an old wife.... and what's your normal opinion on old wives tales?
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
You see, it's tedious stuff like this that wins you no favours Kiz
'Don't eat apple cores, they'll give you appendicitis' - that's an old wives tale.
'Don't think you know everything' - that's parental advice. Along with other classics like 'If you fall and break your leg, dont' come running to me'
Whatever. You keep on with this kind of thing Max, and the rest of the world will get by without you. Perhaps everything we think of as knowledge is in fact a belief. But you know what - much of this 'belief' has such a low probability of anything happening contra- that for all intents and purposes, we can call it knowledge.
That's enough for most people, yet you seem to be unable to grasp a very, very basic concept.
max_freakout
Nothing matters
you cannot possibly know, what the probability of any 'contra-belief' event occuring is
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
you cannot possibly know, what the probability of any 'contra-belief' event occuring is
OK Max, we all know nothing. I don't know that I breathe to get oxygen into my body. I don't know that I eat food to give my body fuel and other nutrients in order for it to keep going.
Your position is ridiculous. Beyond ridiculous in fact. It isn't some great revelation, because quite simply this whole argument about whether you can know something is irrelevant for existing generally, on this planet.
max_freakout
Nothing matters
as i have said many times, it isnt my position, it is the position of the sceptic
I disagree that this position is 'irrelevant to existing', i think it is actually highly relevant to existing
bluestreak
HomosexualityIsStalin’sAtomBombtoDestroyAmerica
No kyser, we were having a rather circular conversation about the role and value of the study of epistemology. Not looking for anything else really.
Feel free to start a thread on wither of those subjects yourself though
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
as i have said many times, it isnt my position, it is the position of the sceptic
I disagree that this position is 'irrelevant to existing', i think it is actually highly relevant to existing
Max, this whole argument, for the purpose of eating, drinking, mating, meeting people etc is completely pointless. The only time it's relevant is in pointless discussions about it like this.
For 200,000 years human beings have gotten by without having to expend vast amounts of energy on an argument about whether knowledge is possibly or not.
It is not pointless though for the survival of the human species that we keep using our brain for other things than eating, drinking, mating, meeting people...
salaam.
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
True, but I suspect that an argument about epistemology, and concluding that we can't 'know' anything, wouldn't be helpful in an arguement about say, global warming, would it?
