beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Cotton wool streets, Yep, that must be the Dutch secret. Can’t possibly be anything else.
Entirely unashamed anti car propaganda, and the more the better.
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Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
First, they came for the Audis....
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
maomao
普費斯
Yellow cars have nearly 50% less accidents black and grey cars do. What colour is your car? Driving a car any other colour than white, yellow or orange is pure vanity and endangers lives.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Why wouldn’t you? Protects your head in an accident.
maomao
普費斯
Covering your face with your hand won't offer the same level of protection and may cause an additional hazard. Why are you taking head injury so lightly? It's the second most common injury while driving after neck injury, can cause death and serious disablement and does to thousands a year. Why don't you wear a helmet?
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
And nobody spoke up for the audi drivers because, well, everyone fucking hated them anyway.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Those lockdown evenings must just be flying by over at your gaff.
And I bet that's absolutely nothing to do with the fact that there are hardly any yellow cars on the roads.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Of course, all those of you championing hi viz and helmets on safety grounds are 100% behind blanket 20mph speed limits in city centre/urban areas, right? Because it’s all about safety, nothing else 
maomao
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Per car. And it's been unfashionable (unbless you're an American cab driver or a cunt in a lambro) for a couple of decades but cars used to be a much wider variety of colours. And white ones, orange ones and yellow ones have less accidents per car.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
We're pretty close to a point where it would be practical to do it in central (maybe up to zone 2) London, for example. In fact, it's already the case that "car free" housing developments where you are not given any parking place are commonplace.
How long it will be in other UK cities depends on how quickly politics allows progressive, incremental restrictions to be introduced.
Here's an example of a small city in Germany which did it a quite a few years back.
What can we learn from this thriving, car-free German neighborhood? Get rid of parking spaces
In Freiburg, Germany, a neighborhood called Vauban made it unnecessary to own a car–and very difficult to do it even if you wanted to. After 20 years of success, it could be a model for how we design future walkable neighborhoods.
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Because I have a seatbelt, airbags, front crumple zone to dissipate front collision energy, not to mention the fact I’m sealed inside metal bodywork of the van.
Aside from my travel to my delivery route, I’m rarely higher than third gear so, low speeds.
Now compare all that to a cyclist and I’m sure you’ll agree that wearing a helmet for cycling is really a must.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
By the way, I'd be happy with providing state-subsidised racetracks in any area where car use was widely restricted. On compassionate grounds, like methadone is provided. No problem really who want to race around and get off on being in semi-control of something very powerful - I can even see the attraction myself. Just, let's not do it on the public streets please.
At the racetracks there could be social events on Sundays where they all go and wash their cars, polish their hubcaps and that. Even whatever that guy in the GIF was doing to the exhaust pipe. Honestly I've not got any problem with people having hobbies like this.
At the racetracks there could be social events on Sundays where they all go and wash their cars, polish their hubcaps and that. Even whatever that guy in the GIF was doing to the exhaust pipe. Honestly I've not got any problem with people having hobbies like this.
maomao
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When off road certainly.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
And yet car accidents remain the second highest cause of head injury going. How strange.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
You're clearly not quite the full Clarkson then. Every time it's proposed/implemented the motoring brigade have a tendency to wail somewhat.Totally.
Not sure why you would think otherwise.
Athos
Well-Known Member
We're pretty close to a point where it would be practical to do it in central (maybe up to zone 2) London, for example. In fact, it's already the case that "car free" housing developments where you are not given any parking place are commonplace.
How long it will be in other UK cities depends on how quickly politics allows progressive, incremental restrictions to be introduced.
Here's an example of a small city in Germany which did it a quite a few years back.
What can we learn from this thriving, car-free German neighborhood? Get rid of parking spaces
In Freiburg, Germany, a neighborhood called Vauban made it unnecessary to own a car–and very difficult to do it even if you wanted to. After 20 years of success, it could be a model for how we design future walkable neighborhoods.
City centres will be realtively easy; the vast majority of people who live there don't have cars, and would prefer safer roads and cleaner air, and they have excellent public transport. But, they're very atypical of how and where most people in the Uk live.
Vaubun might be ok, if served by excellent public transport. But it's important ti remember that people voluntarily moved there knowing it has (almost) no cars; that's different from telling peole who want to keep their cars that they can't.
Tbf everyone is looking sexier rn. On account of being unable to fuck anyone senseless.
Then accessibility for everyone must be a priority. Is this a road surface issue? As I do know how difficult it was simply to wheel my son to the shop in his wheel chair.
Ghent is medieval cobbled streets, café furniture on pavements, in the city centre anyway. And it stinks, but that's just the river.
dessiato
🇪🇸 my spirit is crying for leaving
I believe that HV works, from my observations of it. Reflective vests work too. What I don't understand are the cyclists/walkers who wear HV and reflective gear then put on a back pack or similar and cover it up.
As someone who used to cycle many miles, and who, until lock down, drove many kilometres I don't understand how cyclists/walkers can't understand how important it is to be seen.
As someone who used to cycle many miles, and who, until lock down, drove many kilometres I don't understand how cyclists/walkers can't understand how important it is to be seen.
maomao
普費斯
What colour is your car? And am I correct in remembering you drive a convertible? Do you wear a helmet when driving?
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Again, road position is more important than clothing for visibility.
Where limits make sense they should be implented. On roads near schools or heavily built-up areas 20mph, or maybe even slower, often makes sense. Conversely, 70 mph on many stretches of motorway is too slow. Some studies show that where speed limits are removed, drivers will travel at lower speeds than they do with speed limits. On 30mph roads most drivers will drive at 30mph, whereas if the limit is removed they tend to drive at what they consider reasonable for the piece of road, which in built up areas may be 20mph. Contrary to U75 belief, drivers don't want to have accidents.
Nonsense.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Actually, there is a large proportion of the UK population living in quite similar streets to what you find in much of zone two london. Victorian terraces and edwardian semis.
Of course it does. These tubes are going on a ridiculously flawed study by Cycling UK which said that HV didn't make any difference to how close cars passed the cyclists. Like that was all that matters. They also state that cyclists who wear hi viz put cyclists who don't wear hi-viz at a disadvantage. This is because Cycling UK are mainly a bunch of fucking bell-ends.
maomao
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Nearly 85% of the UK population is urban but Athos is using cheap sophistry to try and claim the interests of the suburban population of cities are the same as those of the rural popultion. Personally, I think cars are a bit like shotguns. Very dangerous but probably have a place in the countryside.
