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It's hard to see how it will all work if everyone has electric. Garages won't have the space on their forecourts, we'll have to have new garages that look more like car parks.

It has always seemed stupid to me to do it this way. They ought to agree a standard battery that you can swap in and out at a garage. I know there are lots of barriers to it but they shouldn't be insurmountable. There would be an automated rack of them at each garage that would bring the charged ones to the front and a derrick to help lift them in and out. Changeover time would be less than a petrol car. The price would be that you wouldn't 'own' a battery, I guess you'd pay a subscription, or the fractional cost of replacement would be added to the fee at each changeover. It requires a little bit more infrastructure altogether and a further shift away from thinking like a petrolhead, but all this waiting to charge bollocks on long journeys would be over.
It has been done
 
Some idiot put me in charge of all the EV points and setting the rates at work for everyone 😇


If you can set it to 1p kWh I'll be round in half an hour.

Seriously, not that cheap to fill up either, 15-80% at a public fast charger, enough for another 190 miles driving, ~£55. Home charger that's ~£25. Home charging cheaper than petrol, but not massively, away charging possible more expensive than petrol.
 
If you can set it to 1p kWh I'll be round in half an hour.

Seriously, not that cheap to fill up either, 15-80% at a public fast charger, enough for another 190 miles driving, ~£55. Home charger that's ~£25. Home charging cheaper than petrol, but not massively, away charging possible more expensive than petrol.


I can set it to zero i found out this week :D
 
Just put down a deposit on a Peugeot e-208 GT. Test drove the basic version and liked it, but the GT version parked two spots down at the showroom was a nicer colour, had black alloy wheels and only cost £1.5k more, so thought fuck it.

Picking it up on Tuesday. Mainly going to be driving around Bristol in endless traffic jams, so clearly needed the GT version, so I can go from 0-60 in less than 8 seconds, before having to sharply brake almost immediately. :oldthumbsup:
 
Just put down a deposit on a Peugeot e-208 GT. Test drove the basic version and liked it, but the GT version parked two spots down at the showroom was a nicer colour, had black alloy wheels and only cost £1.5k more, so thought fuck it.

Picking it up on Tuesday. Mainly going to be driving around Bristol in endless traffic jams, so clearly needed the GT version, so I can go from 0-60 in less than 8 seconds, before having to sharply brake almost immediately. :oldthumbsup:



Does it charge as you brake? Mine does and yesterday I drive it to St Pancras through endless jams and 20mph zones festooned with traffic lights, from when I got to Putney and the crap traffic starting it seemed to gain range, pretty sure at Putney it said 175 miles left, by the time I got to the station it said 189. Perpetual motion, if you can be bothered to drive in perpetual shit traffic.
 
Does it charge as you brake? Mine does and yesterday I drive it to St Pancras through endless jams and 20mph zones festooned with traffic lights, from when I got to Putney and the crap traffic starting it seemed to gain range, pretty sure at Putney it said 175 miles left, by the time I got to the station it said 189. Perpetual motion, if you can be bothered to drive in perpetual shit traffic.
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Does it charge as you brake? Mine does and yesterday I drive it to St Pancras through endless jams and 20mph zones festooned with traffic lights, from when I got to Putney and the crap traffic starting it seemed to gain range, pretty sure at Putney it said 175 miles left, by the time I got to the station it said 189. Perpetual motion, if you can be bothered to drive in perpetual shit traffic.
I think there's a mode you can set to let you do that, but a few of the reviews I read said it changes the way it feels when you brake, so I'll probably weigh up how much money it saves vs how annoying it is before deciding whether to switch it on. No point having a sporty version if it then feels like crap to drive.
 
I think there's a mode you can set to let you do that, but a few of the reviews I read said it changes the way it feels when you brake, so I'll probably weigh up how much money it saves vs how annoying it is before deciding whether to switch it on. No point having a sporty version if it then feels like crap to drive.

Unfortunately, there is no OPD on the e-208GT which is a great benefit of a BEV.
 
Unfortunately, there is no OPD on the e-208GT which is a great benefit of a BEV.
Don't know what OPD is, but just checked and the e-208 GT has got B mode, which is the regenerative braking function, so will have a play around with that when I get it.
 
Does it charge as you brake? Mine does and yesterday I drive it to St Pancras through endless jams and 20mph zones festooned with traffic lights, from when I got to Putney and the crap traffic starting it seemed to gain range, pretty sure at Putney it said 175 miles left, by the time I got to the station it said 189. Perpetual motion, if you can be bothered to drive in perpetual shit traffic.

If you're driving fast for a while and then change to driving slowly it should increase its estimate of remaining range because it's more efficient at slower speeds, so that might be what happened.
 
Don't know what OPD is, but just checked and the e-208 GT has got B mode, which is the regenerative braking function, so will have a play around with that when I get it.

One Pedal Driving. So you don't use the brake in normal circumstances. Lifting off the accelerator slows the car with regenerative braking.
 


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to be clear for anyone who doesn't read the article - this is costs of repairs after collisions based on insurance claim costs. It's not the cost of general/regular maintenance or repairs on an EV vs ICE.
 
to be clear for anyone who doesn't read the article - this is costs of repairs after collisions based on insurance claim costs. It's not the cost of general/regular maintenance or repairs on an EV vs ICE.
Though there obviously WILL be a knock on to General costs
 
Probably not solely an EV problem, but as this will be the first car I've owned with a keyless ignition, does anyone use a Faraday box/pouch to store their fobs in when not being used?

Have heard the stories of people whose cars got nicked off their driveway while they slept, and figure it might be a worthwhile investment.
 
Probably not solely an EV problem, but as this will be the first car I've owned with a keyless ignition, does anyone use a Faraday box/pouch to store their fobs in when not being used?

Have heard the stories of people whose cars got nicked off their driveway while they slept, and figure it might be a worthwhile investment.
You can buy a signal-blocking pouch for about £20- £30. Got one for my bike keys. Only enough space for one set of keys though.
 
Though there obviously WILL be a knock on to General costs
I don't think that's true. There's a lot less to maintain on an EV and general maintenance costs have been reported as lower, with they big risk of a defective battery (but then an ICE engine can also blow up at large expense).

I can imagine it's easier to write off an EV as almost any damage to the battery pack is likely to mean replacing the battery.
 
I don't think that's true. There's a lot less to maintain on an EV and general maintenance costs have been reported as lower, with they big risk of a defective battery (but then an ICE engine can also blow up at large expense).

I can imagine it's easier to write off an EV as almost any damage to the battery pack is likely to mean replacing the battery.
So the insurance companies aren't going to pass on the cost to premium holders....what a marvellous world you live in
 
So the insurance companies aren't going to pass on the cost to premium holders....what a marvellous world you live in


They do, my one is the electric equivalent of a Q7 and is around £350 a year more to insure than one of those…
 
Picked up the new car yesterday. Got weirdly emotional trading in my old one, as it's the only other car I've ever owned, and the one I bought with cash my mum loaned me a few months before she died.

New car is great though, I get free charging through work, and it goes like shit off a shovel.

My final drive in my old car:

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Enjoying my new one:

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Good colour. Peugeot did a nice job on the e-208 styling I think. It looks contemporary with a few nods to Pug's heritage.
 
Do you have the Plug Share app on your phone? It's a good one. fwiw the orange ones are the fast chargers, the green ones are for people who can't charge at home.
 
Do you have the Plug Share app on your phone? It's a good one. fwiw the orange ones are the fast chargers, the green ones are for people who can't charge at home.
I've got the Electroverse app, which shows all the nearby chargers and is partnered with Octopus, so I get a contactless card I can use at the charging points that then bills my home electricity account (I think).

Not sure what the differences are yet between the other various apps like Plug Share or Zapmap, so need to do a bit more research to figure it all out. Hoping I can rinse the free charging at work mostly though.

Not strictly EV related, but this is the first car I've driven with Apple Carplay, and it's revolutionised the way I use my phone in the car. Great for being able to use Waze and Spotify through the main console without having to fuck around with non-compatible stereos or phone/sat-nav holders that don't stick to the dashboard properly and fall off halfway through your journey.
 
If you can set it to 1p kWh I'll be round in half an hour.

Seriously, not that cheap to fill up either, 15-80% at a public fast charger, enough for another 190 miles driving, ~£55. Home charger that's ~£25. Home charging cheaper than petrol, but not massively, away charging possible more expensive than petrol.
A full tank of diesel costs me around £100-110 but will give me around 700 miles so a very wet finger calculation on yours and my figures comes out at 1p per mile cheaper charging at home and up to 10p per mile more expensive at a fast charger. Can't see myself getting a pure EV on those numbers. However Mrs Q's hybrid comes in at about 4p per mile cheaper than an EV with a home charger.
I am deffo coming round to the idea of replacing the Audi with a second hybrid.
 
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