Egypt anti-government protests grow

[ymu]

And ymu, i know which border.

Yeah. The later posts weren't showing for some reason. I caught up and edited - and agreed with your point re: US and Israel. They will not allow the border to open if they can possibly help it. Which I suspect they can.

 

[lizzieloo]

Electricity, Mobile phone networks, Landline phone network and Internet is cut off from Suez. Hundreds of youth are in the streets.

http://www.elshaheeed.co.uk/

 

[bolshiebhoy]

Oh dear scooter , a democracy on both sides?! By those standards Apartheid SA was a democracy. And it wasn't the niceness of the opposition that broke that racialised democracy, it was the strength of the opposition movement. The fall of Mubarak would be a huge boost to the Palestinian struggle, not because it made it fluffier and easier to identify with but for the practical reasons dylans speaks of.Not to mention the huge untapped potential of the Egyptian working class and the resources it could bring to bear on the side of the relatively outgunned occupied territories.

The White House and every wing of Zionist thought from the nastiest right-winger to the most liberal coloniser with a conscience will all be united tonight in shitting themselves at the prospect of things getting out of control in Egypt. And rightly so.

 

[Casually Red]

Oh dear scooter , a democracy on both sides?! By those standards Apartheid SA was a democracy. And it wasn't the niceness of the opposition that broke that racialised democracy, it was the strength of the opposition movement. The fall of Mubarak would be a huge boost to the Palestinian struggle, not because it made it fluffier and easier to identify with but for the practical reasons dylans speaks of.Not to mention the huge untapped potential of the Egyptian working class and the resources it could bring to bear on the side of the relatively outgunned occupied territories.

The White House and every wing of Zionist thought from the nastiest right-winger to the most liberal coloniser with a conscience will all be united tonight in shitting themselves at the prospect of things getting out of control in Egypt. And rightly so.

and thats why theyll give that dogshit the Mubarak the green light to do whatever is necessary , just as they routinely do with his zionist associates.

 

[teqniq]

.... of things getting out of control in Egypt. And rightly so.

And if they do they will in all probability come down with the iron fist. It's what I'd do if I were them.

 

[bolshiebhoy]

All true enough. But ordinary Egyptians, particularly the ones who live in Suez have a long history of organising and standing up to seemingly better armed and funded forces, usually foreign ones fair enough but that might be about to change.

 

[peterkro]

Army on the streets and being extremely brutal,I fear for the Egyptian brothers and sisters.This is goddamn awful.

 

[lizzieloo]

Army on the streets and being extremely brutal,I fear for the Egyptian brothers and sisters.This is goddamn awful.

Where? Cairo?

 

[lizzieloo]

Egyptian government website has gone down.

 

[peterkro]

Cairo and Suez.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

BBC R4 news just now running the usual "clashes have been reported" line - "protestors setting fire to a government building", "use of tear gas" - but focussing on Egyptian government inability to deal with the "problem". Also quite a bit of time given to Hilary Clinton saying basically nothing.

 

[lizzieloo]

Hardly reported anything yesterday.

Tweets are now saying Friday prayers in mosques in central Cairo have been banned to prevent congregation. It's Friday when the biggest protests have been planned.

 

[lizzieloo]

Urgent News: Suez is completely cut off. Police has been evacuated. Protesters there are very angry. The army is being brought in according to reports. Some sad speculations say that a massive crackdown will take place in Suez on protesters which could end up with a REAL Massacre. Suez now is Egypt's Sidi Bouzid.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/jan/26/egypt-protests

We're going to hear terrible things from Suez by morning I fear.

 

[AKA pseudonym]

Egyptian government website has gone down.

 

[Crispy]

Yeah! thatll help the people on the streets! Let's see them crack down without a website!

 

[lizzieloo]

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I have been following what's going on ta, that's why I posted the comment.

 

[AKA pseudonym]

Yeah! thatll help the people on the streets! Let's see them crack down without a website!

well considering some activists arent in Egypt.. waddya suggest?
its well kicking off their still... all mobiles are down n very patchy internet.. just watch riot pron?
At least there is communication lines being held open...

 

[AKA pseudonym]

10mins ago

Voiceleaks - Confirmed from Ground via Phone call. Suez has been open fired upon using live ammunition. Water cannons near suburbs where ppl are going to make phone calls and use net. No internet downtown - he thinks it may be signal interference by officials. Power is flickering - might go out soon. 1/2 town is on... fire and demonstrators and protestors are still at it. Message to world: WE ARE NOT TERRORISTS. Via Amr Terbo from Egypt.

 

[Brubricker]

Just imagine this scene about 15 seconds later.

 

[dylans]

The scene a few seconds later was a thousand people behind him pouring through police lines.

 

[shagnasty]

The rest of the world should make it plain that the government actions are unacceptable.Clinton didn,t say much

 

[dylans]

The rest of the world should make it plain that the government actions are unacceptable.Clinton didn,t say much

The US supports Mubarak with 1.3 billion in military aid annually. Of course Clinton didn't say much

 

[Streathamite]

Do you know about conscription to the police force in Egypt?

I read this earlier

Just to be clear: The simple police soldiers (foot soldiers) are drafted. i.e. They dont have a choice to join the police. It is all part of the obiligatory national service on all uneducated Egyptians. If you don't finish school or illiterate you are forced to join the police for at least 3 years by law. No choice here.

my understanding is that, in a bid to keep unemployment down, and because wages for 'other ranks' in police and army are abysmally low, you join either police or army for 3 years, and all who try to defy this - chokey. Also - because military professionals despise conscripts - they tend to get a lot of abuse and ill-treatment from the 'regulars'.
Hence, the bottom ranks of both are filled with deeply bitter, resentful and alienated young men.
And yes, I think this looks like a revolution - now!

 

[Streathamite]

The rest of the world should make it plain that the government actions are unacceptable.

The chances of western govts saying anything other than pious wiberwal platitudes are approx. zero. mubarak is their ally, and egypt is the most populous arab state, and the most important after saudi

 

[dylans]

 

[Citizen66]

Can the anonymous fan boys shuffle off back to the general forum? It's fucking irritating.

 

[TomUS]

The rest of the world should make it plain that the government actions are unacceptable.Clinton didn,t say much

And along side the FM of Jordan....bizarre.

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton delivered the message at a news conference with the foreign minister of Jordan, another Arab country that watched the ouster of Tunisia's president in a popular revolt two weeks ago.

"We believe strongly that the Egyptian government has an important opportunity at this moment in time to implement political, economic and social reforms to respond to the legitimate needs and interests of the Egyptian people," Clinton said in a statement with Jordan's Nasser Judeh at her side.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE70P71O20110126

 

[butchersapron]

What economic changes would those be?

 

[dylans]

Can the anonymous fan boys shuffle off back to the general forum? It's fucking irritating.

I agree. Though I don't share the disdain that some have for anon. I think people should take it to a separate thread.

 

[Citizen66]

I agree. Though I don't share the disdain that some have for anon. I think people should take it to a separate thread.

I have nothing against them. But this thread is interesting and informative up to the point that anonymous are being shoe-horned into the picture for reasons that elude me.