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So.........

....how long will Tommy actually serve?

And how will he use the experience to further his new role as speaker against extremism?

1. Open University course in accountancy?
2. Religious conversion?
3. A ghost-written autobiography?
 
out in half the time if you behave isn't it?so 9 months
Yeah, but on a tag for x many months after, and even when the tag comes off you go straight back inside for the rest of your sentence if you step at all out of line until your time's done. And that'd be fairly likely with Lennon I'd have thought.
 
Yeah, but on a tag for x many months after, and even when the tag comes off you go straight back inside for the rest of your sentence if you step at all out of line until your time's done. And that'd be fairly likely with Lennon I'd have thought.

Only if he wants to keep up with the "hard man" image, which is unlikely now he's found the light :rolleyes:
 
Your fantasies aren't half as enjoyable when you make a poor effort on spelling.

Just as patriotism is widely held to be the last refuge of the scoundrel, so nitpicking about spelling and crap like that is the first port of call of the walloper with fuck all of substance to add to the debate*.




*Except when I do it. Then it's perfectly justified.










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anyway, the EDL ...

Are a spent force, though even when they were in the ascendant, one didn't have to look too far to find much more worthwhile targets for our opprobrium.
 
Just as patriotism is widely held to be the last refuge of the scoundrel, so nitpicking about spelling and crap like that is the first port of call of the walloper with fuck all of substance to add to the debate.

I'm supposed to have something to add to the 'debate' about being called a prick? :D
 
So.........

....how long will Tommy actually serve?

And how will he use the experience to further his new role as speaker against extremism?

1. Open University course in accountancy?
2. Religious conversion?
3. A ghost-written autobiography?

he said it he'd be out in 18 months. his media career is over as no one trusts him. i imagine he is writing mein kamperwaggen right now.
 
That's the bloke under serious attack from fundies - has even had a fatwa put out on him. A death one.
I didn't know to put this here or the lib dem thread but I went along to the lecture which quite possibly makes me a fascist. There was a bit of a fuss outside.
http://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2...lk-because-speaker-didnt-condemn-maajid-nawaz

http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/Pro...h-University/story-20521964-detail/story.html

There were UAF placards around and I recognised a couple of people in the photo from the odd Socialist Party meeting I've been to. The leaflets they're holding up have fuck all to do with the cartoon and are a print out of a Nick Lowles article about Lennon with some UAF branding. I'm not sure whether they were there about the cartoons or just happened to be there at the same time and have a photo with those who were. A few of those in the photo did come in, though a few walked out, some pretty quickly. The wife didn't like the fact that someone from the demonstration filmed us as we walked in, although I was, as usual, oblivious. The first question after the lecture was about the cartoon and the lecturer's tweet not condemning them.
 

There is some whinging about this article and an attempt at a justification here

http://www.islamophobiawatch.co.uk/anti-quilliam-protest-at-plymouth-university/

They don't even deny that it is to do with the cartoons, merely say it is the not the 'only reason'. And even that is ok but the cartoons suggested Jesus and Mohammed might be gay. God forbid!

I also almost admire the cheek of this one.

Plymouth University ISoc also condemned a cartoon tweeted by Usama Hasan himself, which trivialised domestic violence.

So posting a cartoon which mocks the Taliban's endorsement of domestic violence is trivialising domestic violence but the Islamophobia watch website seems to have pages of puff pieces and posts defending Yusuf Qaradawi.

Within the context of Arabic Islam, he has been remarkable in arguing in favour of female education and employment; he has even declared they can be judges and has called for more women to become Islamic jurists. But of the notorious verse in the Qur'an which allows for the "beating" of wives by their husband, Qaradawi says he accepts it as a method of last resort - though only "lightly". His critics within the Muslim community argue that his position has been overtaken by other scholars who believe that a closer translation of the verse does not condone physical punishment, but is instead about setting an example.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/oct/29/religion.uk1

So that's alright then.
 
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There is some whinging about this article and an attempt at a justification here

http://www.islamophobiawatch.co.uk/anti-quilliam-protest-at-plymouth-university/

They don't even deny that it is to do with the cartoons, merely say it is the not the 'only reason'. And even that is ok but the cartoons suggested Jesus and Mohammed might be gay. God forbid!

I also almost admire the cheek of this one.



So posting a cartoon which mocks the Taliban's endorsement of domestic violence is trivialising domestic violence but the Islamophobia watch website seems to have pages of puff pieces and posts defending Yusuf Qaradawi.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/oct/29/religion.uk1

So that's alright then.
Thanks for that. Both Hasan's twitter and the No to Quilliam Facebook page seem to be giving inaccurate figures on the numbers. The No page suggests there were more people on the demo than in the lecture.I would dispute that. Hasan seems to underestimate the numbers on the Demo (says 10-20 but there are more than that in the picture and there are some faces I recognised missing) and overestimates the number in the lecture but may be going by tickets rather than bums on seats. I did pause and think after learning it was Quilliam, having got my ticket on the title alone, but decided to go anyway. Others may have kept their ticket(alumni can pay for a year and get tickets for any lectures free) and stayed at home/joined the protest.
 
Oh also the video I was unaware of does exist and is now up on the facebook page. I guess I'm an islamophobe now.
 
Oh me oh my. There's a new (ish?) Facebook page called English Defence Union. Can you guess what it's trying to do? Unite the right of course. There's some stuff about "no surrender" up there too. It's like the old days really but with less than 600 "likes" rather than scores of thousands.
 
150 at most. 1st national demo. total washout. antifa, uaf and local asian youth in opposition. just waiting on more photos.
 
I don't live anywhere near all this. But is there something I can do to show support? Perhaps a badge I can wear or something? I am surrounded by bloody Tories and there are no organisations close to me.
 
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