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The girl they are walking for has passed away today.

no doubt they will continue to exploit her cause.
 
cesare said:
It depends what you think anti-fascism should be achieving. I think fascism should be opposed of course, but I'm not sure that a huge kicking off/pushing and shoving, arresting, disruption to the locals - purely to stop the EDL walking up the bloody hill to lay a few flowers would have achieved much. Woolwich has had the far right around for much longer than the EDL, I don't think the EDL have had much impact (as a result of Saturday).
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Completely agree. In fact I think it would be counter productive to stop them hijacking stuff like this. Anti fascists should be defending communities, not preventing the edl from having their ghoulish ceremonies which can easily backfire and be presented as anti fascists 'disrespecting' the war dead etc.
 
Favelado said:
The Catalan EDL? Fucking seriously?
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Just had a look at it. No catalans involved. Seems fake to me or the work of one sad sack loner, who says he actually spends more time in the UK than in Spain courtesy of Ryan Air, so expect a duty free division soon). So why the weekend away facebook group? Irrelevant really.

What's next? an EDL tapas division, just to show they're integrated?

He seems to think all lefties are "treehuggers". Well in Catalunya he's in for surprise as most skinheads you see are anti-fascists and they don't do hugs:rolleyes: .

Lots of comments/likes on the page are from a Nancy Warren, which is obviously a bogus Fb account set up in the states with just 3 friends; one being a certain robert Spencer, a friend of jihad Watch.
 
Anudder Oik said:
Just had a look at it. No catalans involved. Seems fake to me or the work of one sad sack loner, who says he actually spends more time in the UK than in Spain courtesy of Ryan Air, so expect a duty free division soon). So why the weekend away facebook group? Irrelevant really.

What's next? an EDL tapas division, just to show they're integrated?

He seems to think all lefties are "treehuggers". Well in Catalunya he's in for surprise as most skinheads you see are anti-fascists and they don't do hugs:rolleyes: .

Lots of comments/likes on the page are from a Nancy Warren, which is obviously a bogus Fb account set up in the states with just 3 friends; one being a certain robert Spencer, a friend of jihad Watch.
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There is quite a right-wing thread running through a lot of Catalan nationalism though. Both in the mainstream and on the fringes of its politics. I don't know if I agree that most skinheads there would be anti-fascists. I remember the well-reported case of a young man kicking a South American girl in the face and shouting "fucking immigrant" on an FGC train outside Barcelona in 2006/7.
 
Favelado said:
There is quite a right-wing thread running through a lot of Catalan nationalism though. Both in the mainstream and on the fringes of its politics. I don't know if I agree that most skinheads there would be anti-fascists. I remember the well-reported case of a young man kicking a South American girl in the face and shouting "fucking immigrant" on an FGC train outside Barcelona in 2006/7.
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Catalan Independentisme is divided into radical left and centre right. The case on the train you mention doesn't negate that numerically most skins here are anti-fascists. Two years ago 2 skinheads stabbed a fascist in Barcelona. The catalan skins tend to be antifa and the spanish immigrant skins tend to be fash.
 
Anudder Oik said:
Catalan Independentisme is divided into radical left and centre right. The case on the train you mention doesn't negate that numerically most skins here are anti-fascists. Two years ago 2 skinheads stabbed a fascist in Barcelona. The catalan skins tend to be antifa and the spanish immigrant skins tend to be fash.
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Hi Anudder. Please don't mistake my tone for hostility. What does "Spanish immigrant skins" mean in this context?

Am I allowed to go off topic here or does it need to go to PM?
 
Favelado said:
Hi Anudder. Please don't mistake my tone for hostility. What does "Spanish immigrant skins" mean in this context?

Am I allowed to go off topic here or does it need to go to PM?
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second generation from other provinces of Spain. Usually working class and living in the satalite towns outside the cities, who, though born here have anti-catalan sentiments.
 
Anyway, the expat Fb will have something to chirp about soon as the Catalan government intends to pass a law banning the Burka in public places (facial covering). This will ensure that 8 women out of a population of 6,000,000 people in Catalunya face the prospect of having to stay indoors.

It's clearly a pathetic attempt to draw attention away from the real problems. Ironically 6,000,000 is the number of unemployed in Spain as a whole but you won't find that on an EDL FB.
 
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