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stand by for a UAF/student set piece confrontation.


Not digging or criticising but does that mean that a protest against him would be wrong or is it about the UAF?
I know there is a lot of mistrust re UAF which I understand ... using demos to recruit to SWP; not working with others; not operating effectively etc. so I am just wondering if it is the UAF that would be the issue
 
Whilst breaking into any place of worship is despicable, the gangs biggest haul came from commercial burglaries . I found this especially galling :Icon Designs, based at Knuzden, missed out on a £1million contract, and had to lay off 21 workers in the wake of their burglary, he told the Lancashire Telegraph.
 
Not digging or criticising but does that mean that a protest against him would be wrong or is it about the UAF?
I know there is a lot of mistrust re UAF which I understand ... using demos to recruit to SWP; not working with others; not operating effectively etc. so I am just wondering if it is the UAF that would be the issue

Just the way it would be done...
 
Thanks for answering...that's what I figured but wondered as in the past I have heard people argue that
a) it's undemocratic to stop them speaking
or
b) that we should give them enough rope to hang themselves

I don't agree with either of these ideas personally but wondered if that's what you meant.
 
That last part is really fucking depressing - shows how 1) (often perfectly justified) distrust in the mainstream media can open the door for some very sinister forces to try and shape peoples perceptions of what's going on (and if that's right in many cases succeed (as with all conspiracy theory) and 2) how weak the left is - this lot only get the audience they do because people can't relate to left media - we should be winning these people over.


This is the sort of thing I mean, I genuinely think he isn't just talking about the size of the demonstrations in Egypt he's talking about the anti-MB protests as if they are part of the existential struggle between Muslims and non-Muslims. It's just weird, but that's how the 'counter-jihad' movement are portraying it.

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This is the sort of thing I mean, I genuinely think he isn't just talking about the size of the demonstrations in Egypt he's talking about the anti-MB protests as if they are part of the existential struggle between Muslims and non-Muslims. It's just weird, but that's how the 'counter-jihad' movement are portraying it.


when i was younger and sort of in my zionist phase i used to think this way as well. like muslims could somehow be recruited as part of the "anti-jihad" struggle.

It's bollocks all right but could it be a way out of it for some of the people in the EDL? like if you think that egyptians fighting against islamists are on the same side as you could that be a way out of hard-right islamophobia as you think about it more and more?

maybe i'm being too optimistic here...
 
The EDL's 'pet muslim' Abdul Rafiq (aka Abdul Hussain) from Glasgow carried their message of love and tolerance across the water to the streets of East Belfast this weekend.

 
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