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anyone else feel that the EDL is somewhat over?
http://leeds.tab.co.uk/2013/05/05/edl-in-leeds/

that's a terrible article full of classist shit.

and also what was the point of giving them a platform by interviewing them? why confirm their supporters views about their opponents?

There’s an abandoned pub in Moortown – a small civil parish five miles north of Leeds – which a charity wants to convert into a multi-faith community centre.
A mob of working-class whites aren’t happy with this, and for the past month have been kicking up a major fuss, both on and offline, trying to prevent it from happening.
The problem? The charity is the UK Islamic Mission, and most of their members aren’t white.

i would be interested to know what the uk islamic mission are. i suspect that if I lived there I may not be so happy about it myself.

http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?page=86

this isn't to defend the edl or anything like that but that article is a laughable load of shite.
 
that's a terrible article full of classist shit.

and also what was the point of giving them a platform by interviewing them? why confirm their supporters views about their opponents?



i would be interested to know what the uk islamic mission are. i suspect that if I lived there I may not be so happy about it myself.

http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?page=86

this isn't to defend the edl or anything like that but that article is a laughable load of shite.

local opposition to the proposed development long before edl jumped on the bandwagon. The area has "longstanding Jewish and roman catholic communities, with schools and places of worship for both these groups, and also a Sikh community" They say there is about 5 muslim households on the estate where the centre will be, so you can see how the edl would make political capital out of the situation (regardless of what they did on the day) - only ones taken action and listening to the views of the local community.

That said the tab is the student paper aimed at students so knocking the white working class must be par for the course.
 
To be honest from the sounds of the article I posted a lot of Muslims would probably oppose the development as well. Its not a charity, its a religious organisation trying to preach its own reactionary interpretation of Islam.
 
Interesting point, but the fascist lone wolf attacks seem to be few and far between in the UK. When was the last one? Was it Copeland? Now compare that to the amount of people prepared to participate in terrorist acts who are Islamists. Having said that, what is deemed by the security services to be the more dangerous terrorist threat in the UK?

Bear in mind that the twat in Norway acted alone but the group from Birmingham were 6 people with links to another 6 in Luton who were also planning attacks. I see no point in playing this down

Not trying to counter your point exactly, but rather add another angle to it.

There were the couple of idiots who were convicted of trying to blow up a mosque by running a pipe from a gas main to the building. The forensic trail they left included footprints in the snow.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-16042201
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-16098897
 
Do you reckon Zia Ul Huq is his real name or one he has appropriated from another of his role models. Either way its a name Progressives should be wary of.
Bhutto's successor, dictator General Mohammed Zia ul-Haq, went even further. He replaced Pakistan's South Asian identity (cultural, social, educational and its institutions) with Arabization and Wahhabism (the radical Saudi version of Sunni Islam). To achieve this quickly, he made Arabic studies mandatory and had television and radio newscasts produced in Arabic. He introduced an Islamic justice system by setting up a federal sharia court to try cases as per the Qur'an. He prescribed amputations for robbery and theft, and flogging and stoning death for adultery. He also banished liquor, cabarets, clubs and non-Islamic dress. Under his chadar aur char diwari (the veil and four walls) policy, women were required to discard their South Asian dress, including the highly popular sari, in favour of top-to-toe Arabic chadors, and had to stay behind four walls of the home. Blasphemy against Islam and the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was punishable by death.The Soviet invasion of Afghanistan only served to speed up the Arabization of Pakistan. Zia's Saudi friends as well as the CIA showered with him petro dollars to set up madrassas (Islamic religious seminaries) and mosques staffed by Arabic Imams to train die-hard mujahedeen to fight with and drive out the Soviets.

It was Gen. Zia's obsession to Arabize Pakistan that turned this culturally rich South Asian country into a virtual Islamic theocracy, allegedly a safe haven for global terror networks – from al-Qaeda to the Taliban, to the homegrown Tehrik-e-Taliban and sundry lashkars (militias) – plus the jihadist-churning factory with its network of more than 18,000 madrassas. Meanwhile, the country's entrenched ruling elites were gloating over Pakistan becoming “Fortress Islam”, complete with the Islamic nuclear bomb. Not surprisingly, ethnic cleansing, forced conversion and migration drastically reduced its non-Muslim minorities (Hindus and Sikhs) from 20% (1947) to barely 1% (present).
 
very good article here on womens movements in pakistan,the policy of veil and four walls, and community resistance in the form of Thappa Brigades
Women came to the foreground around 2001. Stories differ on when and how women became

involved, but the most plausible seems to be that related by an old man who recalls that in one

Okara village, upon hearing that two children had been killed, women did not stop to inquire

whose children and ran to their rescue, picking up whatever came to hand, including thappas.

They seriously damaged the police van and attacked policemen who, unwilling to fight the

women, ran away. This initial success galvanized further and more prominent and systematic

activism on the part of the women with the full support of male activists (mostly immediate

relatives). In different villages ‘thappa brigades’ were formed and women successfully

intervened on several occasions in direct confrontation with the authorities. They prevented state

officials from removing wood from their lands, and on two occasions prevented the confiscation

of their harvests. The women’s “thappa brigade” caught the public imagination so that the thappa

metamorphosed from a symbol of women’s domesticated roles to a signifier of their activism

and, as the only ‘weapon’ ever wielded by the peasants, a symbol for the entire movement
http://www.wemc.com.hk/web/rf/Shaheed_Womens_movement_final_draft_FS.pdf
 
I suppose EDL watch was set up by the same people who have been trying to convince us for the past 15 years that Islamic terrorism doesn't not exist and that every so called Islamic terrorist attack is a conspiracy carried out by of MI5, the CIA, Mossad and the Iluminati. This video is interesting as it documents one of the first Islamic terrorist attacks against an American target which occurred in 1983 in Lebanon. As for the EDL I say don't shoot the messenger.
 
Didnt want new thread so plonked on here....a bit of nostalgia..maybe Redstorm woild like to use on Anti-Fascist archive.
 

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I sent them via my mobile (as my lappy has a virus) (behave) which has obviously made them diddy..Ill rectify later.
 
EDL Facebook page currently getting >2 likes/second - seen as response to this afternoon's events

facebook chatter suggests right wing planning to hit woolwich, newham, tower hamlets

EDL gathering in Great Harry Wetherspoons in Woolwich. Pls RT.
 
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