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[malatesta32]

tariffs for mortgage fraud:
Value of Fraud: Significant but less than £17,500
Guidelines After Contested Trial: Very short custodial to 21 months
Value of Fraud: £17,500 to £100,000
Guidelines After Contested Trial: 2 - 3 years
Value of Fraud: £100,000 to £250,000
Guidelines After Contested Trial: 3 - 4 years
Value of Fraud: £250,000 to £1 million
Guidelines After Contested Trial: 5 - 9 years
Value of Fraud: £1 million or more
Guidelines After Contested Trial: 10 years or more

 

[malatesta32]

Just read it's 5 years.

Aslo alegedly the 6 where paying off mortgages on a few houses with drug money, and it was a money laundering thing.

any links on that bob? if its laundering and/or drugs, thats bye bye mr tommy for a wee while!

 

[Ranbay]

any links on that bob? if its laundering and/or drugs, thats bye bye mr tommy for a wee while!

Can't link to it sorry only aledged as stated,.

 

[Citizen66]

Alleged by whom?

 

[Ranbay]

Alleged by whom?

Some dude on the internet....

 

[Kev Scott LTJ]

Probably Sally Bercow on Twitter........... allegedly

 

[The39thStep]

Just read it's 5 years.

Aslo alegedly the 6 where paying off mortgages on a few houses with drug money, and it was a money laundering thing.

If it was drugs money then presumably that would come under POCA not just mortgage fraud

 

[Ranbay]

Stephen Vowles, 24, of Heron Drive, Luton, with two counts of conspiracy to commit fraud by false representation in relation to a mortgage application, two counts of false accounting, possession of cocaine with intent to supply, being concerned in the supply of class A drugs to another, and money laundering:

^ This is his wife's brother, it may be that he was named on the mortgages and they deposits used where from the profits of this trade.

 

[malatesta32]

Has he been remanded over chrimbo?

he is remanded over xmas until january for the initial stages of the case but will probably be kept in until may (?) when the trial starts proper according to EDL. i dunno what the legal mambo jimbo stuff is, commital or sumat? anyways, he will ask for bail again in jan, but as he is still deemed a flight risk and now has the fraud allegations against him it is doubtful tommy will be out for a wee while.

 

[malatesta32]

Some dude on the internet....

can i quote you on that bob?

 

[Mr.Bishie]

mambo jimbo stuff

 

[Ranbay]

can i quote you on that bob?

Tell you what, why not quote me

"I think Steven used the drug money to pay deposits on the mortgages."

 

[butchersapron]

Is that fraud then?

 

[Ranbay]

A police spokesman said he had been charged with three counts of conspiracy to commit fraud by false representation in relation to a mortgage application.

I'm not a legal boffin and that but i would assume that trying to use drug money is maybe false representation as it's not obtained through the normal way people obtain money or something?

 

[Citizen66]

I thought the fraud was misrepresenting how the mortgage was to be funded when applying for it.

 

[Citizen66]

Beaten to it by bob.

 

[malatesta32]

falsification of claims along with a myriad of dodgy shit!

 

[malatesta32]

mighty boosh i must confess! the santana spoof 1!

 

[Ranbay]

Fantastic new article on Steven in Vice today, can't link as in work read it on my phone.

 

[disco_dave_2000]

Fantastic new article on Steven in Vice today, can't link as in work read it on my phone.

all here http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/tommy-robinson-edl-laurie-penny-interview

 

[Ranbay]

Argues like a Toddler

 

[butchersapron]

But she's the voice of a generation bob!

 

[Ranbay]

yeah

 

[malatesta32]

'He’s known for besting television interviewers.'
when was that then? utter pish!

 

[malatesta32]

and this is him in a nutshell: out for whatever he can take
He orders the most expensive steak on the menu, with an enormous plate of cheesy potato skins, and chuckles that this is why he likes to meet left-wing journalists: so he can have dinner on their dollar.
Wanker.

 

[co-op]

Fantastic new article on Steven in Vice today, can't link as in work read it on my phone.

There was one thing about that LP interview that did catch my eye though, all Steven's twitchiness and paranoia - that certainly fits with having plenty of charlie around. Also with dealing it.

Now that I think about it, the whole EDL manifesto is a bit like a written version of coke bugs.

"Everywhere! They're everywhere! Horrible, malign after me!"

 

[butchersapron]

I doubt there's anything like that in Laura's circle.

 

[co-op]

I doubt there's anything like that in Laura's circle.

Maybe why she didn't pick up on it.

 

[Ranbay]

I can't even look at food after a load of Gak let alone eat a huge steak and a side order of loaded skins!!

 

[DotCommunist]

should have stung vice for a few pints while he was there