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if you have a group that causes tension/trouble/fights/needs policing every single time they go somewhere, that in my books needs a ban. It's not even the minority that causes trouble/tension. It's all of them!
 
I seen this in Whitehall, I was there during the minutes silence until some European Muslim decided to shout 20 seconds into it "No more wars" the police turned up and told him you had you say and the people here are to give their respect and was told to go away, some people freaked as he had a shaven head and back off abit. As for the EDL I got some guy at work who backs them fully but then he is a Millwall supporter! I couldn't care myself, an hour later as I walked past I was amazed by the numbers of police there the EDL were in a pub but they were surround by five rows of police and dogs. And tons of police met vehicles. I can't say what happen as I wasn't in the area, This evening I made my way that way only to find it's all been cleared up.
 
Gives them a fillup in the 'victimisation of the working class white british people of this country' department though.

Also, sets a nice precedent for any group gathering in numbers with a united active interest - all it'll take is a numpty online and suddenly everyone's getting in the back of a van.
 
if you have a group that causes tension/trouble/fights/needs policing every single time they go somewhere, that in my books needs a ban.
I'm glad you're not in power then!

Causing 'trouble' is not in itself a bad thing. UK Uncut are pretty dedicated to 'causing trouble'. So are Smash EDO. I'm sure you could fill in a dozen more examples yourself.

The banning of the EDL is the last thing we should be wishing for, unless we're wishing for a fascist state.
 
They didn't look particularly rowdy, safe to assume the police had undercover plod in the Red Lion? They seem to have them everywhere else. I woke up around 12 with several texts saying the edl were on their way to OccupyLsx. When those teens got years for plotting facebook riots, it seems odd that the police never follow up edl specific threats. I'm no fan of this style of policing, or the MET in general, but perhaps they did have real info?
 
following on from this weeks student demo; the ratio of police to protesters seems to be now fixed at 1:1.
How long till the met follows Greece and Italy into financial meltdown?
 
Also, sets a nice precedent for any group gathering in numbers with a united active interest - all it'll take is a numpty online and suddenly everyone's getting in the back of a van.

Hardly.

There are some idiots on the left but I doubt they would post photos on the internet of themselves in paramilitary clothing saying they are off out to smash some skulls and if they did they would deserve to be lifted. Also I think 'a numpty online' is not going to attract any attention at all as there are lots of numpties online.

The reason the police took this seriously was that after MAC cancelled their protest, the disappointment that their target had dissolved was all over the EDL facebook pages. Literally thousands of posts appeared urging those still going to London, to attack the Occupy London site and literally hundreds of posts from people going there, promising to 'rip the tents up' and 'kick the fuck out of the protesters'. This was all helped along by a 'status' by admin on the official EDL site warning the Occupy site to be gone by 12am. or they would shift them.

What do you suggest the cops should have done?

john x
 
Threats to OccupyLSX from EDL regions/divisions & members came well before MAC were banned/cancelled demo.

*Almost* since it began- definitely after it swarmed to other locations.
 
good for you.
now they know how social justice protestors feel. police have been dishing that heavy-handed shit out for decades. Every day I praise the advent of the phone video camera & citizen journalism - seriously.

maybe EDL come back to politics after all this racial scapegoat crap they've been chomping on for the last decade. there's worse than edl ideology out there anyway, which is relatively new by comparison. All manner of CTs - some cut-up from centuries-old state or religious propagandas - have taken the place of involved engagement in local and national and international level politically. They can be far harder to deal with ime because they're championed by people who've lost complete faith in the entire political decision making process.
 
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