EDL watch

[taffboy gwyrdd]

Mid to late last year I was predicting 2 possible directions for the EDL: Stagnation or branching out into more overtly fascist activity. An attempt has been made to bring about the latter with some small "success", attacking anti fash meetings etc. but not really getting anywhere.

At 1st appearance this Luton gig looks distinctly average, especially as it was so hyped up. Hopefully the stagnation prediction has come true. They are going nowhere partly because their ideology is going nowhere but also because counter demos guarantee the scum can't march properly and get bigger thrills.

Any activist of any stripe knows that the appeal of standing around listening to a single transferable speech and singing naff songs wears off pretty quickly. These set piece demos are clearly going nowhere now. Congrats and thanks to all who have kept the lid on it, and continue to.

 

[Sean]

No wonder they reckon there's no room left in England with fat cunts like that taking up half the countryside.

Aren't the fash usually the ones who claim they can't tell the difference between leftie/anarchist men and women? In this case I'm stumped. But either way: hubba hubba

 

[Gingerman]

One of England's finest!

Nuff said

Someone who's looks would improve with the addition of a burkha

 

[veltins]

Mid to late last year I was predicting 2 possible directions for the EDL: Stagnation or branching out into more overtly fascist activity. An attempt has been made to bring about the latter with some small "success", attacking anti fash meetings etc. but not really getting anywhere.

At 1st appearance this Luton gig looks distinctly average, especially as it was so hyped up. Hopefully the stagnation prediction has come true. They are going nowhere partly because their ideology is going nowhere but also because counter demos guarantee the scum can't march properly and get bigger thrills.

Any activist of any stripe knows that the appeal of standing around listening to a single transferable speech and singing naff songs wears off pretty quickly. These set piece demos are clearly going nowhere now. Congrats and thanks to all who have kept the lid on it, and continue to.

such far sighted inspirational analysis ...................Did u help run the economy under labour as well?

 

[veltins]

EDL Luton Sky are claiming that there are 3-4,000 on the demo. It looks closer to 3,000 to me. @hopenothate[/QUOTE

u could start a count from here............... 1,2,3,7,5,11,6

 

[xes]

bunchacunts

 

[creak]

Veltins is urban's resident EDL fuckwit, isn't he?

 

[Ranbay]

English Defence League (EDL)
The English defence league are proud to announce that the next demonstration will be held in the city of Birmingham on 19th march 2011.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

This was meant to be a "homecomming" thing in Luton wasn't it? Hard to know the exact numbers but It doesnt sound to me like it got much over 2 to 2,500 for the fash. With all the publicity and hype I would make that out as a profound disappointment. I wonder if there will be rumblings among those capable of making their opinions count. A couple more like this and we will be able to say that they have past the peak of influence, at least in the medium term. Yesterdays rally got no mention in bulletins I heard - a reasonable measure of media impact, or lack of it. Many thanks to to all the antis who continue to make it nigh on impossible for the dupes and fascists to march.

 

[manny-p]

English Defence League (EDL)
The English defence league are proud to announce that the next demonstration will be held in the city of Birmingham on 19th march 2011.

I don't thing they will be run out of town next month. Hopefully they are kept out of the city centre. Will be interesting to see what numbers the local paedo division of the EDL will get to the demo after the pricey incident.

 

[Citizen66]

such far sighted inspirational analysis ...................Did u help run the economy under labour as well?

Were banking directors members of the labour party? Who knew?

 

[Ranbay]

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150099358164533&set=o.145019135549768

 

[emanymton]

Friend of mine who was there said 2-3000 EDL with 1500-2000 UAF in the city centre with another 3000 (mostly local) people at Bury Park

 

[Anudder Oik]

People in general are not good at judging numbers in a crowd. They make wild self satisfying guesses. If you look at the footage of the EDL demo as it comes down the street or from the aerial view, they are approximately 1000.

If you go to football or music clubs and know something about capacities of venues/Grandstands etc, you'll be better prepared to make a judgement on numbers.

The UAF somewhat thinner on the ground and the locals a couple of hundred. All in all not impressive, except the Telegraph video from the station where they dish the bigguns hat for him.

It's all there on youtube.

The facebook colour head job says it all. Nice work.

See the link 2 posts previous...

It shows about half the length of their march. Nuff said.

 

[Fingers]

I don't thing they will be run out of town next month. Hopefully they are kept out of the city centre. Will be interesting to see what numbers the local paedo division of the EDL will get to the demo after the pricey incident.

lol long live pricey! looks like the student/commie/uaf combo have hacked their message boards

h**p://s1.zetaboards.com/EDL_The_Forum/topic/4108994/1/

replace the * with t as always....

 

[treelover]

he or she is a fantasist,, no way was there 2000 UAF

 

[Fingers]

oh dear, all the admin accounts have been wiped out and the colour scheme has been made a bit 'gay'

 

[Das Uberdog]

tbf it wasn't so much 'wrong' as elaborated. and my sources are usually right.

ed: @ 39thstep

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

Some good stuff at this Facebook page.


http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...At-The-English-Defence-League/145019135549768

 

[Ranbay]

he or she is a fantasist,, no way was there 2000 UAF

I'm sure of you add all the Anti EDL, UAF, MDL and everyday people of the town, there was more than the 1500 EDL for the Big one

 

[Citizen66]

"We're all EDL"?

 

[The39thStep]

Mid to late last year I was predicting 2 possible directions for the EDL: Stagnation or branching out into more overtly fascist activity. An attempt has been made to bring about the latter with some small "success", attacking anti fash meetings etc. but not really getting anywhere.

At 1st appearance this Luton gig looks distinctly average, especially as it was so hyped up. Hopefully the stagnation prediction has come true. They are going nowhere partly because their ideology is going nowhere but also because counter demos guarantee the scum can't march properly and get bigger thrills.

Any activist of any stripe knows that the appeal of standing around listening to a single transferable speech and singing naff songs wears off pretty quickly. These set piece demos are clearly going nowhere now. Congrats and thanks to all who have kept the lid on it, and continue to.

They are 'going nowhere' because with very few exceptions they haven't built locally and developed politically. Seeing as they cannot march due to Police and Council bans rather than counter demos they are stuck with static demonstrations which the Police contain. Its not the counter demos that wear them down its the Policing.

 

[butchersapron]

Yes, they have nowhere to go as the edl - the danger is that a large number of individuals will pass into the BNP and from there actually be part of a group that is trying to lay down those local roots the edl cannot and so shift public political debate onto a de facto cultural/racial setting for just about everyone. The real danger has never been the edl.

 

[fiannanahalba]

Agree with Butchersapron.
The EDL has shown that there is a clear constituency of right wing street activists ready to be mobilised to a degree that the hard left currently struggles to match.

 

[john x]

People in general are not good at judging numbers in a crowd. They make wild self satisfying guesses. If you look at the footage of the EDL demo as it comes down the street or from the aerial view, they are approximately 1000.

Interesting point!

Having done a number of sold-out shows at Brixton Academy, I'd say that that crowd, when put shoulder to shoulder, would fill approximately half of the downstairs standing area. That would make it roughly somewhere around 1800 people.

So police estimate of 1500 not too far out allowing for the usual under-estimate.

john x

 

[The39thStep]

Yes, they have nowhere to go as the edl - the danger is that a large number of individuals will pass into the BNP and from there actually be part of a group that is trying to lay down those local roots the edl cannot and so shift public political debate onto a de facto cultural/racial setting for just about everyone. The real danger has never been the edl.

Searchlight now flying the kite for the English Democrats Party.

 

[audiotech]

Flying the kite for the EDP? In fact it's one of a 'series of articles on right-wing alternatives to the BNP'.

According to Searchlight, there's "outrage" and "disgust" within the EDP that some in the EDP are 'courting BNP members' and there has been a call for an EGM over this and proposal of a vote vote of no confidence in two of its national council members.

Whether the party can emerge stronger will be determined partly by what happens to the BNP but also by its own members' reactions to the arrival of former BNP members in their ranks.

"Next month UKIP".

 

[Ranbay]

 

[The39thStep]

Flying the kite for the EDP? In fact it's one of a 'series of articles on right-wing alternatives to the BNP'.

According to Searchlight, there's "outrage" and "disgust" within the EDP that some in the EDP are 'courting BNP members' and there has been a call for an EGM over this and proposal of a vote vote of no confidence in two of its national council members.



"Next month UKIP".

You have a lot to learn about Searchlight

 

[audiotech]

Not this ^ bollocks again! I've been reading Searchlight and all that surrounds it for the last thirty years.