EDL in Tower Hamlets on 20/06

[Pickman's model]

alright, why lancaster unity seem to have missed someone out then.

 

[The39thStep]

The interesting thing here is not so much the EDL being nasty people etc and reports telling us just how beastly they are but the continuing dilemma for UAF and Searchies on how to 'fight' them.

 

[audiotech]

The interesting thing here is not so much the EDL being nasty people etc and reports telling us just how beastly they are but the continuing dilemma for UAF and Searchies on how to 'fight' them.

I expect an implosion from within over who controls the present lucrative merchandise they sell.

 

[The39thStep]

Isn't it worrying that it is precisely the success of the EDL rather than the opposition that dominates the potential demise of the EDL?

 

[Luther Blissett]

Dudley 1: around 7 arrested. Bricks were thrown at police. Fences were pushed down. 'Demonstrators' did run rampage after that. EDL who'd didn't come from Dudley blamed locals and 'non-EDL' for the violence and racism.

Dudley 2: around 21 arrested. Bricks, drainpipes and fences were thrown at police. Fences were pushed down. Demonstrators were knocked over and seriously injured after EDL protestors broke the window of the car which reacted by putting foot down to get away from the violence. EDL outsiders once again blame locals and 'non-EDL' for violence & racism.

Both Dudley demos were against the building of a mosque, under the SIOE slogan and viewed as helping to put a stop to what SIOE and other Counter Jihadis call 'Islamification'.

Both Dudley demos had nothing to do with being against extremist Islamism (a la Despatches 'Undercover Mosque') but were against all Mosques in England, thus against English Muslims.

Anglo-Jews are against SIOE and EDL's extremist Islamophobia. So what has EDL & it's ICLA allies done?

EDL/ICLA brought in a Brazilian who identified herself as as Jewish (named Roberta) then proceded to call Islam a cult and generally focus on the most extreme examples in the world to turn English men and women (mainly men) against their fellow Englishmen and women (but only if they're Muslim). The Counter Jihad 'Infidel Blogger Alliance' then spread the news of this lone wingnut Brazilian who spoke, as a Jew, to EDL.

Basically we believe that these Counter-Jihadis are hoping to destroy Jewish-Muslim alliances in Britain, which are by similarity in nature stronger than Christian-Jewish alliances, not only because of the same threat from the ultra-right nationalists, but because of some close similarities of practices (such as Halal//Kosher dietary requirements).

Jewish security group CST (who gather data on antisemitic incidences and advise on security for temples) have advised and continue to advise the Muslim community on security for their Mosques whilst EDL and SIOE and other atlanticist-euroskeptik Islamophobes have resorted to insults and ad hominems to denegrade and insult the British Jewish community as a whole for their support of Britain's Muslim community.

EDL supporters attacked a Hindu Temple during their last visit, actions that appear to be saying that nothing is sacred for the EDL, else why would they vandalise religious communities' sacred buildings?

 

[audiotech]

Isn't it worrying that it is precisely the success of the EDL rather than the opposition that dominates the potential demise of the EDL?

Absolutely.

 

[audiotech]

EDL court protest in Luton, then escorted to pub by police who then seem to become irregular "pub bouncers"?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-10731835

 

[audiotech]

Following his exposure as a former member of the BNP:

Yaxley-Lennon, [aka 'Tommy Robinson'], has handed over the leadership of the ‘peaceful’ EDL to Kevin Carroll, who has just been convicted of violent disorder in Luton. Even Tommy has realised how untenable the ‘we ain’t BNP’ claims have become and has buried his membership card in the garden.

Source.

 

[audiotech]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/aug/07/english-defence-league-bradford-march

Chants of "Kevin Jenkins is a Pedo" from the EDL? I doubt it.

http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/news...t-girl-14/article-2382755-detail/article.html

 

[The Black Hand]

I expect an implosion from within over who controls the present lucrative merchandise they sell.

ERm, what 'success'? All they do is run around doing shouty things, which is exactly what you criticise the anarchists and the left for doing!

 

[audiotech]

ERm, what 'success'? All they do is run around doing shouty things, which is exactly what you criticise the anarchists and the left for doing!

'success and doing 'shouty things, which is exactly what you criticise the anarchists and the left for doing'?

I've never said anything of the kind, so what are you blathering about?

 

[revlon]

went down to this

http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/threads/330940-Fighting-Fascism-in-London

glad to see, apart from the whitechapel anarchists mobbed up (with ladies present and everything) the uaf types providing a bit of physicality - just in case edl made an appearence.

 

[audiotech]

The EDL get a kick up the ARRSE.

 

[The Black Hand]

Isn't it worrying that it is precisely the success of the EDL rather than the opposition that dominates the potential demise of the EDL?

ERm, what 'success'? All they do is run around doing shouty things, which is exactly what you criticise the anarchists and the left for doing!

 

[The39thStep]

ERm, what 'success'? All they do is run around doing shouty things, which is exactly what you criticise the anarchists and the left for doing!

Success as in they have proved that 'antifascism' ie the opposition hasn't the capacity to smash them/no platform them?

 

[Citizen66]

The EDL get a kick up the ARRSE.

Reading some thread slowly delivered by youtube? How tedious.

 

[The Black Hand]

Reading some thread slowly delivered by youtube? How tedious.

I enjoyed it

 

[The Black Hand]

Success as in they have proved that 'antifascism' ie the opposition hasn't the capacity to smash them/no platform them?

That was never their aim, & i am not sure whether it matters too much either. We all knew the 'opposition' was weak anyway... I think it will have given a lot of them confidence - the 'first far right street movement' etc since the 1970's but luckily they have not got a collective clue, & some individuals even less. They are symptomatic of a general decline in progressive working class education & values - class consciousness so to speak, but we knew that was happening anyway. Rather we have to promote alternatives.

 

[Pickman's model]

go on then

 

[The Black Hand]

go on then

A definate contender for 'waste of time post of the year'.

 

[Proper Tidy]

A definate contender for 'waste of time post of the year'.

Self awareness lol

 

[audiotech]

Reading some thread slowly delivered by youtube? How tedious.

More tedium from a bunch of muppets:

 

[The39thStep]

Couldn't we just offer Lancaster Unity a sticky here? It would save Auditech what must be a mind numbing task of cutting and pasting their material.

 

[Pickman's model]

A definate contender for 'waste of time post of the year'.

i thought you might be promoting an alternative and now i see how wrong i was to think you had anything to offer

 

[Pickman's model]

Couldn't we just offer Lancaster Unity a sticky here? It would save Auditech what must be a mind numbing task of cutting and pasting their material.

an audi tech recently

 

[The Black Hand]

Self awareness lol

Fully, obviously u hav no idea.

 

[The Black Hand]

i thought you might be promoting an alternative and now i see how wrong i was to think you had anything to offer

FUll of political lies again Pickman - will you ever grow up? YOu do nothing!!
At least we're doing it in the North East with a range of alternatives;
http://tynewearleftunity.wordpress.com/
http://sunderlandwelfareaction.wordpress.com/
http://iww.org.uk/tyneandwear
http://mayday-magazine.com/
http://workingclassbookfair.vpweb.com/

 

[Pickman's model]

FUll of political lies again Pickman - will you ever grow up? YOu do nothing!!
At least we're doing it in the North East with a range of alternatives;
http://tynewearleftunity.wordpress.com/
http://sunderlandwelfareaction.wordpress.com/
http://iww.org.uk/tyneandwear
http://mayday-magazine.com/
http://workingclassbookfair.vpweb.com/

i look forward to reading your next incisive article in capital & class, from whose pages you have too long been absent.

 

[Proper Tidy]

Fully, obviously u hav no idea.

Obviously

 

[audiotech]

Couldn't we just offer Lancaster Unity a sticky here? It would save Auditech what must be a mind numbing task of cutting and pasting their material.

blah,blah,blah.