Gary Arronson?
Oy vey!
Oy vey!
EDL attack Newscastle SWP meeting
- Thread starter Das Uberdog
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Also surely due to the recent split, which saw over half your local membership quit.
Shame Basher wasn't there he could have taken them all on!
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
Surely nobody could be in intimidated by a gang of balaclava clad football hooligans with a trackrecord of violence and intimidation?
Surely nobody could be in intimidated by a gang of balaclava clad football hooligans with a trackrecord of violence and intimidation?
but isn't that how the party members have been sold the edl. Violent pasty-faced petty-bourgeois NAZIBNPFASCISTS attacking muslim victims and only the vibrant anti-fascism of the swp to come and save them?
When in reality what we get is pensioners and students walking out of a public meeting they organised when coming face to face with the white working class.
ps the muslims are more than capable for looking after themselves. More so apparently than the uaf.
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
God you're a thick cunt.
JHE
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The frightful proles even had...
... and this was a local meeting for local Trotlets.
"Don't worry, Tubbs. We won't have these non-local plebs standing at the back. We will evacuate ourselves."
Das Uberdog
remembers the alamo
have you ever been in a fight, JHE?
Pensioners aren't working class?
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
what's with the definite article? The EDL are not THE white working class made flesh. They're some white people, some of whom (maybe the majority) are working class, but they're not more represententative of white working class people as a whole that the SWP are.
Surely nobody could be in intimidated by a gang of balaclava clad football hooligans with a trackrecord of violence and intimidation?
Sorry, I must have misunderstood what you were saying. I thought you were being pedantic.
the tragedy is it's all there captured on film the fear and the failure of the left.
It was the swp leadership who right from the start screamed NAZIBNP at the edl making their case from a few facebook quotes and searchlight rumours.
But what we see on the video is not far right boneheads who need SMASHING but ordinary lads - who may drink in pubs, who may go to football on a saturday, who may have reactionary views when it come to immigration, or 'their' country - acting in fact like ordinary working class people the country over.
And the swp's repsonse is not to engage, but to walk away.
It was the swp leadership who right from the start screamed NAZIBNP at the edl making their case from a few facebook quotes and searchlight rumours.
But what we see on the video is not far right boneheads who need SMASHING but ordinary lads - who may drink in pubs, who may go to football on a saturday, who may have reactionary views when it come to immigration, or 'their' country - acting in fact like ordinary working class people the country over.
And the swp's repsonse is not to engage, but to walk away.
Spion
I hear ya
Yeah, ordinary lads who film meetings they walk into, taunt attendees when they leave - 'you'll never stop the EDL' - then post on youtube with a title 'commies don't like it up em'. All perfectly normal.
I agree they should have engaged with them. I would. But then those there may have felt intimidated.
Basically, a left wing meeting was disrupted by nationalist thugs and people here are crowing about it. I hate to sound like Treelover, but if that's peoples' attitudes we're fucked if ever push comes to shove. And you know you'd be next
I agree they should have engaged with them. I would. But then those there may have felt intimidated.
Basically, a left wing meeting was disrupted by nationalist thugs and people here are crowing about it. I hate to sound like Treelover, but if that's peoples' attitudes we're fucked if ever push comes to shove. And you know you'd be next
'left wing'?
The tragedy is that communists are not going round 'attacking' Trot gatherings.
The tragedy is that communists are not going round 'attacking' Trot gatherings.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
quite. But it's only armchair pseudo-lefties crowing, worthless twats who never do owt anyway about wank off o the internet.
Spion
I hear ya
Most of the sorry gang of liberals with tank fantasies you refer to are too old, infirm or dead to ever do such a thing, so dream on you daffy twat
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
I'm no fan of the SWP by any stretch of the imagination but some of the wingnuts and freaks that post on these threads are so saturated with hatred of them that they seem to have totally lost their politcal bearings. I mean, it comes to something when on a supposedly progressive web board there can seriously be a debate over whether there are any signs of intimidation in the photograph below:
I mean WTF? Imagine being on a train as a loan muslim woman and you become surrounded by a load of boisterous football hooligans in face masks and black uniforms best known for their demagogical campiagn against the Islamification of Britain - can anybody see why that might be just a tad intimidating? Anybody? (hint - "but, but the SWP" is not a good answer here). It doesn't really matter whether or not the EDL fuckwits intentionally directed intimidation against her (and tbh that would hardly be unlikely would it?) because their mere pressence was itself an act of intimidation. That's just what paramilitary chic means to most people.
There are all sorts of debates that should be had about how to deal with the EDL but if you don't start from the perspective of they are utter fucking scum then you should probably just fuck off to S****front.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
I'm no fan of the SWP by any stretch of the imagination but some of the wingnuts and freaks that post on these threads are so saturated with hatred of them that they seem to have totally lost their politcal bearings. I mean, it comes to something when on a supposedly progressive web board there can seriously be a debate over whether there are any signs of intimidation in the photograph below:
I mean WTF? Imagine being on a train as a loan muslim woman and you become surrounded by a load of boisterous football hooligans in face masks and black uniforms best known for their demagogical campiagn against the Islamification of Britain - can anybody see why that might be just a tad intimidating? Anybody? (hint - "but, but the SWP" is not a good answer here). It doesn't really matter whether or not the EDL fuckwits intentionally directed intimidation against her (and tbh that would hardly be unlikely would it?) because their mere pressence was itself an act of intimidation. That's just what paramilitary chic means to most people.
Don't entirely agree with your last paragraph but this ^^^ is spot on.
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
are they in paramilitary gear? They're wearing polo shirts aren't they?
or hoodies maybe?
or hoodies maybe?
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
anonbristol
New Member
i was on that train and no one except the journalist spoke to that lady and the only complaint she made was she didnt want to be photographed by the journalist
fiannanahalba
Feel the Love
I hear that Weyman and Martin are sending the SWP students down the gym as well as showing them their naughty little moves. Squadism returns?
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
Geri
wasn't born to follow
Maybe true - maybe not, but look at the state of you lot. You look like the tufty club.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
I meant the "starting from the position that the edl are all utter scum" bit.
aaah, fair play. I'd go for '93.6854% ofthe EDL are utter scum' meself
