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The HDR 2160p torrent I got is pretty good. If I went to the cinema I'd have to wear earplugs, not have subtitles and probably miss a couple of minutes running to the toilet.
Dune - dir. Denis Villeneuve
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sleaterkinney
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A non sci-fi person who with me thought it was great.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Not in a cinema I don’t. I want to watch a story, not be pummelled into my seat.
I’m just going to torrent it and watch at home.
Reno
The In Kraut
The point of IMAX is the higher resolution and you won't benefit from that at home anyway. At home I find these changing aspect ratios gimmicky and distracting when I don't get the benefit of actual IMAX. Once the 4K blu-ray gets released, you'll probably get the changing aspect ratios (and I'll get this in 3DRather annoyingly, that torrent version (which comes direct from HBO) doesn't expand to 16:9 for the bits that go full screen at IMAX. I was under the impression that's what we'd get
), but if you want to see this in IMAX you really should go and see it at IMAX.It's the regular widescreen release version for which the film was composed anyway and which is the way most people will see this. That's how I saw it at the cinema in Berlin because it was the only release which was in English (for me) with German subtitles (for my companion).
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Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Just bought a ticket for a subtitled screening tomorrow, as I’m assuming it will have impenetrable dialogueI saw it a few weeks ago and to my surprise, I really liked it. Never read the book and if I have problems with the film it has more to do with the source than with the adaptation.
Dune - dir. Denis Villeneuve
it’s probably best to focus on reviews of the film by critics who aren’t Bookwankers (trademark U75). You won’t get a fair review from people comparing it with the bookwww.urban75.net
Reno
The In Kraut
It has a lot of weird made-up words.
Shippou-Sensei
4:1:2.5
Might put a bass line to the sadakar chant and head bang for the emperor.
Idaho
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Who'd have thought in the far future they might have different objects, concepts, names and technical details. A real revolutionary concept in science fiction.
Reno
The In Kraut
I get that it’s all part of the world building but this type of thing is why I never read much fantasy and Dune is closer to fantasy than science fiction. It makes me so aware of the world building and it pulls me out but I’ll admit it’s more of an emotional response. Dune tries particularly hard in that regard.
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Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
It’s fucking tiresome when it’s overused. At least Ian Banks did it with his tongue firmly set in cheek. The likes of Herbert and Heinlein write in such turgid humourless prose, that the names only add to the tedium
Idaho
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Anything done with this is just fucking annoying. And Banks did all good SF work with the help of either a space Uber chick or a brooding genius with a dark past.
Idaho
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Closer to fantasy than SF...hmmm. I suppose we'd have to get into the semantics of genre before making any headway on that point.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
I love his names for spaceships.
It’s way better than having to read ponderous clunky prose, but agree that it can go too far when it’s self-consciously whacky like the criminally overrated Terry Pratchett
Reno
The In Kraut
I get that technically Dune is sci-fi but if you set something in a really far off future then it becomes more fantastical and it’s not much different from setting a fiction in a long ago, alternate past. Dune has more in common with Lord of the Rings than with Arthur C. Clarke or Phillip K. Dick. It’s a matter of taste, while I enjoy elaborate world building in films, I don’t on the page.
I thought science fiction was where everything included is possible from a scientific viewpoint although the technology may not yet exist to realise it and science fantasy is any old nonsense with added dragons and wizards?
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Crispy
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It switches aspect on the screen too. Mostly it's interiors in the wide aspect and exteriors in the taller one. It does add to the immersiveness.The point of IMAX is the higher resolution and you won't benefit from that at home anyway. At home I find these changing aspect ratios gimmicky and distracting when I don't get the benefit of actual IMAX. Once the 4K blu-ray gets released, you'll probably get the changing aspect ratios (and I'll get this in 3D
A laser IMAX projector is actually 4k wide, just like my TV so all I'm really missing is the sound (and the field of view unless I get uncomfortably close to the scree
)
Crispy
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Idaho
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The definition/distinction that I like and use is that science fiction is a what if story. The characters are tossed on a tide of whatever the situation and concept demands. Fantasy, on the other hand is about the narrative of characters, the hooks of story telling - the great reverse, the epic, love, revenge, etc.
Alas by this definition almost all stories are both SF and fantasy!
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
the gurney/paul sparring showed perfectly the way some of the more unwieldy book dialogue has been faultlessly replaced with acting. I din't need to be told gurney was going in extra hard after the boy had shown indifference to the fight, because he was doing it. The intensity. Stilgar is a legend in this film as in the books. I've a lot more to say but I'm going to watch again tonight- its a big thumbs up from me though. So many cool bits to process, just the scene with Leto's final revenge was amazingly done, finding Baron Harkonnen afterwards up there on the ceiling like something monstrous.
Thora
Differently Ethical
Lots of mumbling
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
But how long is an Arrakis year?
Reno
The In Kraut
The reason why I could never get into fantasy like Tolkien is because I find them over-preoccupied with world building, while I found the characters to be thin archetypes and the plot a straightforward quest. I'm sure there are plenty of examples which are different, but yours is a poor distinction. Michel Faber's science fiction novels are all about the complex inner lives of its characters, who drive the plot. Michael Crichton's science fiction novels are full of narrative hooks and plot twists.
platinumsage
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Years in Dune are measured in Earth years. It would be a bit silly having a galactic civilisation where everyone only used their own years. Paul was born in 10175 A.G. (After Guild). 0 A.G. = 10175 A.D.
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Someone like Iain M Banks is happy to make up all sorts of stuff that couldn't exist according to the laws of physics as we currently understand them. But he doesn't do magic or mystical mumbo-jumbo, there's always a sense that there are a set of rules and limits to what can happen in his stories. In Dune there is mumbo-jumbo aplenty, so I'd call it fantasy rather than soft sci-fi or 'space opera'. Having attempted to read it, I'd also call it complete bollocks. But it's also very long, so people who do finish it will tell everyone it's great rather than admit they just wasted however long it took to read 1100 pages of dreck.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
You could argue that as the only planet we know with life has those qualities, life requires them if it is to exist anywhere elseWell it's set in our far future, so presumeably 15 earth years.
All alien planets in scifi have convenient 1g gravity, 1000 bar atmospheres and 24h days
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