Driving Standards

[SpookyFrank]

Cambridgeshire judge astonished by killer driver's earlier ban

Prosecutors are asked to explain why Liam Mansfield was not charged with a more serious offence.

www.bbc.co.uk

Pissed on 5 pints, cannabis in his system, only got licence back 3 months earlier after a 12 month ban for a police chase doing up to 80mph in a built-up area. Kills one woman and comes within a hair's breath of killing her wife too. Six years porridge and 5 year driving ban (with three year extension, so 8 years )


At the bottom of the article reporting on this shitbag's behaviour is a link on the right...

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BBC not really got a leg to stand on here while they keep making shit like Top Gear that glorifies driving like a bellend.

 

[Saul Goodman]

BBC not really got a leg to stand on here while they keep making shit like Top Gear that glorifies driving like a bellend.

In the same way Grand Theft Auto glorifies robbing and raping?
Fortunately, most sane people know it's just light-hearted entertainment, or we'd all be dragging people out of cars and teabagging them.

 

[T & P]

I hope he got a good laugh out of it…

CCTV shows 'idiotic' drive down Birmingham rail tracks

Aaron O'Halloran causes eight-hour passenger delays with his half-mile car ride between stations.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Driver jailed after fatally knocking down pedestrian while using mobile
Driver jailed after fatally knocking down pedestrian while using mobile



Mis-read the sentence as years, fucks sake. Two year ban an’all, that’ll learn him…

 

[hash tag]

How to literally get away with murder

 

[Badgers]

How to literally get away with murder

Yup...

If that is the 'deterrent' for fucking killing someone while using a phone at the wheel then it is no deterrent.

Maybe 4 months prison and a year ban for causing life changing injuries and blindness?

 

[Spymaster]

How to literally get away with murder

No. That’s not murder.

 

[Saul Goodman]

No. That’s not murder.

Is that why he wasn't charged with murder?

 

[sleaterkinney]

No. That’s not murder.

It’s “careless driving”

 

[Spymaster]

It’s “careless driving”

It’s more than that but it certainly isn’t murder. Hyperbolic nonsense.

 

[maomao]

It’s more than that but it certainly isn’t murder. Hyperbolic nonsense.

Hyperbole is a legitimate rhetorical technique and makes sense here not only because it links with the idiom 'to get away with murder' but also to highlight the pointless waste of life. I'm sure everyone here is clear that murder refers to pre-meditated killing.

 

[Spymaster]

Hyperbole is a legitimate rhetorical technique and makes sense here not only because it links with the idiom 'to get away with murder' but also to highlight the pointless waste of life. I'm sure everyone here is clear that murder refers to pre-meditated killing.

Nope. The use of “literally” in HT’s post precludes that.

 

[Badgers]

It’s more than that but it certainly isn’t murder. Hyperbolic nonsense.

Manslaughter

 

[Spymaster]

Yes

 

[Badgers]

Yes

We agree on something involving cars and drivers

Vehicular manslaughter is the crime of causing the death of another individual due to the illegal driving of a vehicle and the sentence for dangerous driving can take many forms. Causes of vehicular manslaughter include:

Gross negligence
Drunk driving
Drug driving
Reckless driving
Speeding

Under UK 'law' it is typically 2-10 years afraid so he got a small sentence. Manslaughter is a minefield though

The short driving ban oddly irks me more. Maybe he was just stupid/reckless/selfish but his driving killed someone.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

I'm sure everyone here is clear that murder refers to pre-meditated killing.

No it doesn't.

 

[philosophical]

Isn’t the wise thing to do pretend you’re invisible, every other road user wants to kill you, nobody can be relied upon to obey the rules of the road and (here comes the existential but helpful bit) every accident you’re involved in is your fault.
(Yes I know it isn’t, but it is a good mindset to have especially if you’re a motorcyclist).

 

[maomao]

Nope. The use of “literally” in HT’s post precludes that.

Well if you want to be utterly pedantic he said it's 'how to literally get away with murder', not that the case in question was literal murder. And he's right. Ask any copper (I'm sure you know loads).

 

[maomao]

No it doesn't.

Ok, premeditated and unlawful.

 

[Spymaster]

Well if you want to be utterly pedantic he said it's 'how to literally get away with murder', not that the case in question was literal murder. And he's right. Ask any copper (I'm sure you know loads).

Nope. Wrong again.

 

[Spymaster]

Ok, premeditated and unlawful.

Google is your friend!

 

[maomao]

Nope. Wrong again.

I know you are.

 

[Spymaster]

I know you are.

Seriously? Dear oh dear.

You should’ve added “but what am I”

 

[maomao]

but what am I

An idiot obsessed with the legal definition of murder apparently.

 

[Saul Goodman]

An idiot obsessed with the legal definition of murder apparently.

How to literally get away with genocide.
Words have meanings for a reason. It helps to use the correct ones.

 

[Spymaster]

An idiot obsessed with the legal definition of murder apparently.

I just know know what it is. Without googling.

 

[maomao]

How to literally get away with genocide.

A word thankfully mostly free from metaphorical or idiomatic use. Can you imagine people saying 'I could genocide a kebab right now'. It would leave a funny taste in the mouth.

 

[Spymaster]

How to literally get away with genocide.
Words have meanings for a reason. It helps to use the correct ones.

He doesn’t know his arse from his elbow when it comes to grammar. Literally.

 

[maomao]

He doesn’t know his arse from his elbow when it comes to grammar. Literally.

The conversation had nothing to do with grammar. Literally.

 

[Saul Goodman]

He doesn’t know his arse from his elbow when it comes to grammar. Literally.

I thought he was quite clued up on the English language, and quite pedantic about its use, which was why I was surprised to see him defend such lax use of it.