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Dr Who Christmas Special 2012

It did occur to me that there should be a face off between the three gentic/machine enhanced warrior races. Cyberman vs dalek vs sontar-ha


this might have already happened (five doctors? when Borusa was nicking warriors from all over space and time and pitting them against each other?) but that was old who which I have affection for, but the sontarans in particular looked shit back then.


its coming up to Who's 60th soon iirc so they should do this. Make it a 3 Doctors special as well, northener teams up with Hamlet and my old school fellow to face this tripart menace
 
It did occur to me that there should be a face off between the three gentic/machine enhanced warrior races. Cyberman vs dalek vs sontar-ha


this might have already happened (five doctors? when Borusa was nicking warriors from all over space and time and pitting them against each other?) but that was old who which I have affection for, but the sontarans in particular looked shit back then.


its coming up to Who's 60th soon iirc so they should do this. Make it a 3 Doctors special as well, northener teams up with Hamlet and my old school fellow to face this tripart menace
You've nicked this off my treatment for a Five Doctors special also featuring McGann during the final moment of the Time War and a mysterious future Doctor who's actually the Master or the Valeyard or something and must be defeated.
 
How could he forget the Yetis in the underground? But then he is 1,000 years old now and the Troughton doc was 450 so that's a lot of time to forget something and much has happened to him since then.

Smith seems to have given the GI the idea to base its next invasion in the London Underground, so leading on to Web Of Fear. Oops!

It took me a while to work out what GI meant and that this was a Great Intelligence / Abominable Snowmen story. I'd heard they were bringing them back but I was expecting sphere-controlled furry robots again.
 
The worlds slowest computer can't even stream. It's taken five minutes of pause to load up the the first line of dialogue.
 
Ah ballbags. Somehow chrome has shut down the streaming site and told me I am stealing by watching dr who.
Well I think that's what it said, it was all Japanesey but had a picture of a robber and wot not.
 
can someone fill me in on this yeti/tube map stuff?
Troughton story Web Of Fear. GI makes its second attempt to Take Over The World with robot yeti lurking in the LU. First appearance of the Brig (Colonel Lethbridge-Stewart before his promotion). 1 episode in BBC archives, photo/audio reconstruction available on torrents.
 
Done.
Shit magic tears ending.
I suppose the woman dying a lot is sort of interesting.

I like the new back to basics titles and tardis interior.
 
Its been properly puzzling me how the whole Oswin thing is gonna work, when's the new series on so I can see if my theories are right?
 
April...

Don't know if its been mentioned but on Clara's grave her date of birth was 23rd nov 1963. That's the date of the first transmission of dr who, which leads nicely up to the 50th anniversary next year.....
 
I enjoyed it more than any recent xmas special. Straax was proper hilarious, and the first few minutes with the worm had me doing the whole actual laugh out loud guffawing stuff. Oswin was far less objectionable than she was in the dalek episode, although I really wish they'd knock the whole 'I want to get into your pants, gotta have some love shit going on' stuff on the head now. I tentatively agree about her being drawn from the same 'Moffatt's Big Book of How to Write Strong Female Characters' - although like I said, it did seem less overt in this episode than in her first one. He's also shit at writing men, although it seems to go hand-in-hand with his views on women. The dad who didn't know how to deal with kids, for example. I loved Richard E Grant, if only for his perpetual grumpy look.

It was similar in so many ways to the shark episode. Grumpy old Victorian man made bitter and angry and twisted by a fucked up childhood, has some weird machine that fucks people over with its mystical precipitation, he cries and is emotionally broken, and there's even another frozen woman. The family crying at Christmas thing was cheesy as all hell, but I forgive him that because this is a feel-good family/kid Christmas show after all. I liked the twist with Clara being deaded twice. I dislike, however, the trend of making the companions the entire fucking plot. I want the companions just to be some people who end up accompanying the doctor around for a bit, and perhaps through the course of their travels they become great, or awesome, or do something excellent, but I don't want them to already be some kind of special, weird, important plot device before we've even started. The show should be about the doctor and the cool stuff he sees and does, not about the companion and the doctor running around trying to work them out. Perhaps that's okay once in a while, but it's becoming a trend.

I loved the new title music, but the jury's still out on the new TARDIS interior. I want Ten's interior back. I liked that.

Moffatt still isn't as good at explaining why 11 would be all angry and angst-ridden as Davies was with 10. When 10 acted emo I could understand why, because Davies wrote it into the show all the way along, and made it believable. When 11 gets all angry and sullen, I feel both confused as to why (it doesn't match the personality he displays the rest of the time) and really couldn't give a shit, because Moffatt has done such a good job of making the show about the doctor's companions that I don't feel any connection to 11 at all. Smith acts brilliantly, and I like him a lot, but I couldn't give a shit about the doctor as a character at the moment.
 
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More of this, please!
 
I enjoyed it more than any recent xmas special. Straax was proper hilarious, and the first few minutes with the worm had me doing the whole actual laugh out loud guffawing stuff. Oswin was far less objectionable than she was in the dalek episode, although I really wish they'd knock the whole 'I want to get into your pants, gotta have some love shit going on' stuff on the head now. I tentatively agree about her being drawn from the same 'Moffatt's Big Book of How to Write Strong Female Characters' - although like I said, it did seem less overt in this episode than in her first one. He's also shit at writing men, although it seems to go hand-in-hand with his views on women. The dad who didn't know how to deal with kids, for example. I loved Richard E Grant, if only for his perpetual grumpy look.

It was similar in so many ways to the shark episode. Grumpy old Victorian man made bitter and angry and twisted by a fucked up childhood, has some weird machine that fucks people over with its mystical precipitation, he cries and is emotionally broken, and there's even another frozen woman. The family crying at Christmas thing was cheesy as all hell, but I forgive him that because this is a feel-good family/kid Christmas show after all. I liked the twist with Clara being deaded twice. I dislike, however, the trend of making the companions the entire fucking plot. I want the companions just to be some people who end up accompanying the doctor around for a bit, and perhaps through the course of their travels they become great, or awesome, or do something excellent, but I don't want them to already be some kind of special, weird, important plot device before we've even started. The show should be about the doctor and the cool stuff he sees and does, not about the companion and the doctor running around trying to work them out. Perhaps that's okay once in a while, but it's becoming a trend.

I loved the new title music, but the jury's still out on the new TARDIS interior. I want Ten's interior back. I liked that.

Moffatt still isn't as good at explaining why 11 would be all angry and angst-ridden as Davies was with 10. When 10 acted emo I could understand why, because Davies wrote it into the show all the way along, and made it believable. When 11 gets all angry and sullen, I feel both confused as to why (it doesn't match the personality he displays the rest of the time) and really couldn't give a shit, because Moffatt has done such a good job of making the show about the doctor's companions that I don't feel any connection to 11 at all. Smith acts brilliantly, and I like him a lot, but I couldn't give a shit about the doctor as a character at the moment.



that rests with the character not as number whatever but as ongoing. The doctor has always veered like a bipolar puppy between anger and angst or manic excitement. Its part of the pattern. Ne face, new tardis interior. Same baggage. You don't lose those memories just cos you got a new body. Hence occaisonal fits of dark rage and angst amidst the 'hello, jelly baby, check my bow tie bitches' etc
 
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