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It's going to be hilarious when this tape gets out, if it exists - though if it is real, Tom Arnold deserves a kick in the nuts for not releasing it in time.


The actor Tom Arnold has claimed to have video of Donald Trump using racist language, obscenities and denigrating his own son in outtakes of The Apprentice.

“I have the outtakes to The Apprentice where he says every bad thing ever, every offensive, racist thing ever. It was him sitting in that chair saying the N-word, saying the C-word, calling his son a retard, just being so mean to his own children,” Arnold told the Seattle-based radio station KIRO.

The actor and comedian said a contact from the reality TV show passed him the material before last month’s election, but he did not release it because of a confidentiality clause and the expectation that Trump would lose.

“[When] the people sent it to me, it was funny. Hundreds of people have seen these. It was sort of a Christmas video they put together. He wasn’t going to be president of the United States.”
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bluescreen said:
So that's for charity and he's not President yet so it's therefore OK? :hmm:

The Many Problems with the Trump Kids’ Scheme to Sell Access to Their Father on Inauguration Weekend
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It's going to be the most corrupt administration in recent US history. Trump & his family will rake in many millions. Most presidents cash in after leaving office but The Donald & co. don't intend to wait. Trump voters will hopefully get a bit disillusioned with their hero who was going to drain the swamp. It's so brazen, it could eventually bring him down.
 
‘Death by China’ author to lead Trump trade office
China hawk Peter Navarro to lead new White House National Trade Council

The author of books such as Death by China and Crouching Tiger: What China’s Militarism Means for the World has for years warned that the US is engaged in an economic war with China and should adopt a more aggressive stance — a message that the president-elect sold to voters across the US during his campaign.

 
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When you don't actually have any politics beyond policing the language of people to your left online, and accusing them of racism for the electoral advantage of your disgusting and corrupt candidate, this is the sort of grasping shit that you come up with. I am referring to Sraah Kendzior, but CRI is basically channeling them on this board so it could apply to them as well if they had any influence.
 
I think a lot of US libs expected the likes of Facebook, Google and Microsoft to act as a sort of woke private sector technocratic bulwark against the baser tendencies of the population.

Of course, people who realise anything much at all understand about the role these tech firms play in US politics know that the right-wing misanthropy which these people perpetuate jives perfectly well with what Trump is pushing. Dream on libs, the world doesn't, and won't, work that way.

Silicon Valley has fallen
 
I'm currently making my way through brogdale favourite Streeck's 'How will capitalism end?' and this particular bit is really prescient (taken from the twitter account of someone else who thought the passage was interesting)



Is this the period we are now entering?
 
J Ed said:
I'm currently making my way through brogdale favourite Streeck's 'How will capitalism end?' and this particular bit is really prescient (taken from the twitter account of someone else who thought the passage was interesting)



Is this the period we are now entering?
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Johnny Canuck3 said:
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I remember back in the days when it was Clinton and her supporters wailing hysterically that Trump was a dangerous fascist etc because he and his supporters weren't going to recognise the result of the election .
Shoes on the other foot these days .

Now it's all Russian plot , fix ! Recounts, Clinton really won change the rules .
And it was a Russian plot, a dastardly attack on the USA . Talk of war .
If it was Trumps people carrying on like this itd be talk of coups and they'd be getting the internment camps ready .
 
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Faaaaaaacck !!

That Dunham one is carrying on like a 5 year old meeting Santa . Pulling those idiotic, infantile faces. Infantile .

Worth bearing in mind the Clintons genocidal Iraqi sanctions wrought such poverty they forced thousands of young Iraqi girls into prostitution in a country were it was almost unheard of previously . That's her feminism .
Fisks " the great war for civilisation " devotes some space to that subject . Dunham should either address that or just stop breathing and fuck off .
 
The U.S. is no stranger to interfering in the elections of other countries

The CIA has accused Russia of interfering in the 2016 presidential election by hacking into Democratic and Republican computer networks and selectively releasing emails. But critics might point out the U.S. has done similar things.

The U.S. has a long history of attempting to influence presidential elections in other countries – it’s done so as many as 81 times between 1946 and 2000, according to a database amassed by political scientist Dov Levin of Carnegie Mellon University.

That number doesn’t include military coups and regime change efforts following the election of candidates the U.S. didn’t like, notably those in Iran, Guatemala and Chile. Nor does it include general assistance with the electoral process, such as election monitoring.

Levin defines intervention as “a costly act which is designed to determine the election results [in favor of] one of the two sides.” These acts, carried out in secret two-thirds of the time, include funding the election campaigns of specific parties, disseminating misinformation or propaganda, training locals of only one side in various campaigning or get-out-the-vote techniques, helping one side design their campaign materials, making public pronouncements or threats in favor of or against a candidate, and providing or withdrawing foreign aid.
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Thus, another revolution in a cycle that has become extremely familiar: Lena Dunham says something that offends people; Lena Dunham apologizes; Lena Dunham carries on. Sometimes the process will feature one more element (Lena Dunham learns a valuable lesson); the basics, though, will be the same in their ebbs and flows. Dunham is, with all this, engaging in an age-old ritual: She is doing the sacred stuff of young personhood, which is to say making mistakes and correcting them, over and over again—but she is carrying them out in public.
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Lena Dunham and the Perils of Learning Out Loud
 
J Ed said:
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well I guess not having read his book it's difficult to say much about it. I don't know why he thinks his concept of an interregnum constitutes a non capitalist system or why he thinks we are in the final crisis of capitalism when e.g. the Great Depression wasn't. I'm suspicious about how he would define capitalism and dubious about predictions of its immanent end. I bet there's been a fair number of those throughout its history.

In the quotes he doesn't seem to describe a break with capitalism in a way I'd recognise. And I wonder if it's not a bit Western-centric (or post-war Western centric maybe) to view absence/failure of institutions, difficulty of governance, instability/insecurity as representing the end of the system, instead of something that in various places and times is quite normal. Maybe it's all argued and explained convincingly in the book, but as it is I don't see much reason to think the end has arrived.
 
inva said:
well I guess not having read his book it's difficult to say much about it. I don't know why he thinks his concept of an interregnum constitutes a non capitalist system or why he thinks we are in the final crisis of capitalism when e.g. the Great Depression wasn't. I'm suspicious about how he would define capitalism and dubious about predictions of its immanent end. I bet there's been a fair number of those throughout its history.

In the quotes he doesn't seem to describe a break with capitalism in a way I'd recognise. And I wonder if it's not a bit Western-centric (or post-war Western centric maybe) to view absence/failure of institutions, difficulty of governance, instability/insecurity as representing the end of the system, instead of something that in various places and times is quite normal. Maybe it's all argued and explained convincingly in the book, but as it is I don't see much reason to think the end has arrived.
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I don't think that Streeck thinks that what he is describing represents a real break with capitalism either
 
that streeck quote reminds me of somethin ian mcloed said about writing the fall revolution series, seeing his speculation on the death of neoliberalism as not a move to socialism, but more like a move from antiquity to fuedalism- an essential pessimism that came from his reading of the phrase 'the common ruin of the contending classes'
 
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