Donald Trump, the road that might not lead to the White House!
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What, one area of many where certain problems have been a festering sore for decades?
not-bono-ever
meh
I cannot comment on the numbers you refer to ,as I am tired of the constant reference to the stats for *whatever* these days - but to suggest that SM is somehow to blame is a diversion I feel - people have always sought the opinion/ been directed to the opinion they should / want to ally to. SM is just a delivery vehicle for something that already existed.There has never been a level playing field for information, irrespective of era
As if we weren't going to get reports of a 'spike' in hate crimes.
Anyway, what's actually interesting about the left-liberal response to this election is that while it's usually assumed that no government will carry out most of its promises, or will be able to, when some loudmouthed buffoon who pushes all the right buttons gets into office, it's automatically assumed that he'll be able to act on every single utterance he's made.
Why? Because it's become second nature to such people to see themselves as beleaguered defenders of civilized values. By working themselves up into an irrational sense of dread they can boost their simultaneously over-inflated and fragile self-esteem.
Sure enough, we are going to see some ugly stuff, but it will only bring into sharp focus problems which have gone unaddressed for decades.
Why? Because it's become second nature to such people to see themselves as beleaguered defenders of civilized values. By working themselves up into an irrational sense of dread they can boost their simultaneously over-inflated and fragile self-esteem.
Sure enough, we are going to see some ugly stuff, but it will only bring into sharp focus problems which have gone unaddressed for decades.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
And now who are you talking to? There have been pages and pages on here before and after the election, from all kinds of people, pointing out that Trump was/is full of shit and couldn't do half of what he is threatening to do even if he wanted to.
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
bimble
floofy
I think it's basically a troll. was going to try to respond properly to what they said but fuck it. It's the same person who said on the black lives matter thread 'I bet some of them are sorry that more black people don't get shot by the police here so that they could be more relevant.'
Treacle Toes
Time
Put up and shut up...it was going to happen anyway and is ultimately for the common good.
Nylock
I hate 'these days'...
Why the scare quotes around the highlighted word? (my bold)
bimble
floofy
also .. reports of. Not actual hate crimes just reports of them .
eoin_k
Lawyer's fees, beetroot and music
It doesn't take much analysis to see that Trump won a nativist/nationalist campaign. He didn't even use dog-whistle politics; he just came out with rhetoric and policies that were explicitly racist and anti-immigrant. It's understandable that you want this to be acknowledged, since it is so disturbing. More importantly, people will need to be vocal about to oppose Trump's policies. But what would Sanders have gained by focusing on this yet again here? What strategic lessons are to be learned from assuming that this is the only reason people either voted for him, or didn't vote for the only alternative candidate that stood a chance of being elected?
In which case maybe some people could be a little less alarmist/hysterical.
Because we're always getting reports about 'spikes' in this or that. It's part of the narrative now.
On this issue: BNP councillor gets elected somewhere-reports of a spike in hate crime. Brexit ditto. Now it's Donald.
Those factors disappear or recede and something else is reportedly causing such a spike. The underlying issues are seldom adequately addressed, but the reports in themselves have a certain market appeal.
You what?
maomao
普費斯
A book a month? They're really pushing themselves there lol.
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
Approach three girls a day? I predict a sudden rise in testicular injuries.
bimble
floofy
Kenan Malik today, wise and humane as ever and offering no simple solutions.
THE FAULTINES OF THE IMAGINATION
THE FAULTINES OF THE IMAGINATION
bimble
floofy
What makes you think it's a tiny movement? On what basis do you think that?
And even if you think the crossover between MRA and alt right stuff is tiny, Bannon is now chief strategist, so it's no longer possible to reasonably dismiss this as fringe nuttery.
There's a woman on twitter who has been studying these websites for years, and she called the result correctly.
She says "If people followed the alt-right groups on Reddit, they would know that young white Americans were told to hide their support of Trump... Young men came to these online groups for tips on picking up girls & came out believing that it was up to them to save Western civilization". etc.
sorry not sure if this is posted already but it is a piece on Bannon from last year that gives another bit of the jigsaw puzzle of the win
This Man Is the Most Dangerous Political Operative in America
This Man Is the Most Dangerous Political Operative in America
camouflage
gaslit at scale.
8den
No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...
Trump has made Bannon the pope of the alt right his chief strategist.
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
OK, here's something you don't see every day on urban; someone admitting their ignorance.
What does a chief strategist actually do?
And still nothing has happened yet. Maybe start panicking when it does?
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