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Quite in order for Trump to win this, alot of things have to fall correctly for him, depressed women, millenial and black turnout (not happening we can see that from early voting), and for pretty much every battle ground state to fall this way. Clinton can lose somewhere like Ohio, or Florida or Pennslyivan or in some cases all three and still map a route to victory. Meanwhile with states like Virginia, Utah and Texas all looking dicey, the republicans are having to spent time, money and effort protecting their lead in states they should be easily leading.
The thing about PA being a swing state is weird. It's a Blue state with a high Red vote effectively - there are very few floating voters there and the high Democrat vote in Philadelphia, Pittsburgh etc is always enough to defeat the rural Republican vote. Missouri used to be considered a swing state but went Red so often that it's not in that column any more - tbh Pennsylvania should be the same.

Didn't touch on the female vote but yes, here's another group that are less inclined to vote Trump than they were Bush.

Point of order, Virginia is pretty much a lock for the Blue team these days - Bush won it twice but the state has changed over the past decade and the Republicans barely even try there any more. Other demographic changes are shifting Arizona, Texas, South Carolina and Georgia towards the Democrats over time which highlights your point - the Democrats are looking capable of expanding their electoral map over the next few years while the Republicans are fighting to hold on to what they had. For this year, yep - Trump has to win every single swing state to get to the White House while Clinton can afford to lose one or two
 
so today there's the story of the trumper yelling "jews suck ass" at a rally. here's a reaction taken from the comboxes of a metropolitan librul media website. i don't know if yiz in the UK are hearing this stuff, it's what yanks have been putting up. yes, it's typical. this is what's being mainstreamed in the case of a trump win, a loss by him won't make it go away obv but it won't recceive legitimization either.

Another democratic national committee plant ..

Also regarding American Jews or the worldwide Jewish culture... they fear no American politician because they own all of them ... This was made very clear when Sarah Palin admitted her "love for Israel " in 2008 VP debates... really? Since when do our politicians proclaim their love of any country but our very own?

Jewish culture has unprecedented power stemming simply from the fact that any criticism or even open dialogue on any topic related to Jews or Israel that is "against" their propaganda and agenda is labeled anti-semetism...


so: any bigoted talk about jews must be from clinton's people, a trumper would not do such a thing, and also the jews control everything and you can't say anything about them.
 
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so today there's the story of the trumper yelling "jews suck ass" at a rally. here's a reaction taken from the comboxes of a metropolitan librul media website. i don't know if yiz in the UK are hearing this stuff, it's what yanks have been putting up. yes, it's typical. this is what's being mainstreamed in the case of a trump win, a loss by him won't make it go away obv but it won't recceive legitimization either.

Another democratic national committee plant ..

Also regarding American Jews or the worldwide Jewish culture... they fear no American politician because they own all of them ... This was made very clear when Sarah Palin admitted her "love for Israel " in 2008 VP debates... really? Since when do our politicians proclaim their love of any country but our very own?

Jewish culture has unprecedented power stemming simply from the fact that any criticism or even open dialogue on any topic related to Jews or Israel that is "against" their propaganda and agenda is labeled anti-semetism...

Oh; I thought the eejit was yelling "Jew-S-A, Jew-S-A" in some kind of conspiraloon play on "U-S-A, U-S-A"...
 
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This map is a good example, this is a really a (VERY) best case scenario for Trump,and Clinton still wins
 
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This map is a good example, this is a really a (VERY) best case scenario for Trump,and Clinton still wins

What puzzles me is how solidly blue Michigan and Pennsylvania are compared to Ohio. Is the demographic really that different now?
 
In both instances they have large groups Middle class college educated women, a group Trump needed to break for him. They didn't.
 
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In both instances they have large groups Middle class college educated women, a group Trump needed to break for him. They didn't.
Correct me if I'm wrong but southern/western Ohio surely has more in common with neighbouring KY, WV and IN than either PA or WI do. Sure,Cleveland probably aint that different to Philadelphia but Cincinnatti (down on the IN/KY border & just over 50% White) returns two Republicans to Congress. Toledo has a Democrat representative but is pretty much the sort of depressed manufacturing city that Trump has targeted around other parts of the Mid West.

Ohio does seem somewhat more volatile than Pennsylvania or Indiana - as I said above, PA has a high Republican vote but it seems maxed out just below the Democrats so long as the Dems turn their vote out. IN went for Obama in 2008 but is otherwise reliably Republican
 
JTG I'll come back, there's an article on my laptop on voter turnout, I think.

Anyway Clinton just dropped a new ad. I don't know whether it'll be effective but as political theatre it's stunning. They found the little girl from the 64 LBJ/Goldwater ad.



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That's appalling.

As was the original ad, which ran only once, was pulled and then the lapped up the free advertising from the news stories talking about the ad. I don't think this will be as effective as that.

If you'll look at it from this point of view Trump's base consists of elderly, white baby boomers, the people who were around when this ad first aired. It's targeted at them.
 
As was the original ad, which ran only once, was pulled and then the lapped up the free advertising from the news stories talking about the ad. I don't think this will be as effective as that.

If you'll look at it from this point of view Trump's base consists of elderly, white baby boomers, the people who were around when this ad first aired. It's targeted at them.
It's appallingly targeted then.

is there a nuclear vote?
 
should be fine though, his tiny hands will be too small to press the big red button
At least Mexico should be safe from the radiation, with that fucking big wall. When he gets them to pay for it he should maybe offer an upgrade to lead lined.
 
Given the latest Podesta leak and the fact we now know debate questions were leaked during Primary debates, will those who until now have claimed in the face of all evidence that the DNC didn't rig the primary against Sanders now recant?
 
At least Mexico should be safe from the radiation, with that fucking big wall. When he gets them to pay for it he should maybe offer an upgrade to lead lined.

Now is the time to invest in giegar counters. I can make a great deal on gieger counters. Everyone else will be coughing their teeth up. Sad!
 
It's appallingly targeted then.

is there a nuclear vote?
There's definitely a fuck it vote, and all the people planning to stay home because both choices are shit: The ad up there might be crass as hell but it is getting across the message to go vote for Not Trump, saying you don't have to trust or like HC all you have to do is find Trump scarier.
 
There's definitely a fuck it vote, and all the people planning to stay home because both choices are shit: The ad up there might be crass as hell but it is getting across the message to go vote for Not Trump, saying you don't have to trust or like HC all you have to do is find Trump scarier.
What is the social base of the trump vote?
 
Given the latest Podesta leak and the fact we now know debate questions were leaked during Primary debates, will those who until now have claimed in the face of all evidence that the DNC didn't rig the primary against Sanders now recant?


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Now is the time to invest in giegar counters. I can make a great deal on gieger counters. Everyone else will be coughing their teeth up. Sad!
In the nuclear winter Trump's entourage will dive into the caverns beneath Trump Towers. As they go deeper they'll find themselves slotting into the bunkers of the lustful, the gluttons and the flatterers, till the find the beast himself trapped in the ice by his quiff, crunching on the bones of Tony Schwartz.
 
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