Donald Trump, the road that might not lead to the White House!

[Yuwipi Woman]

Perhaps next they can raise some money for those poor benighted souls in ISIS who I hear may be suffering from extensive property damage in Mosul at the moment.

If you read the gofundme page, it almost looks like they're using the controversy to advertise funding for school projects.

 

[bluescreen]

As I said, they're Christians. I wouldn't have been in any rush to join their funding but I think I can understand why they did it.

 

[Yossarian]

They set a target of $10k, hit it within 40 minutes and closed the fundraising, with a message to send money to school projects instead. Now 'Democrats raise funds in bipartisan show of blah blah blah' is the headline instead of the attack itself, seems like an OK result for minimal effort. The county is only about 20% Republican anyway, so I guess they can afford to be generous...

 

[Casually Red]

blimey...that's a lot of sh*t to casually try and hang on someone, if they haven't actually used those terms.

And 'hatred of Clinton' is a very different thing to ' evident misogyny', sounds like folk are equating one with the other, which is exactly the same kind of disingenuous bollocks slimey Liberals were chucking at 'Bernie Bros' for the first half of the year.

My hatred of clinton ..and everything shes done and represents..is no different to my hatred of Thatcher . In fact she's worse than thatcher. I've explained why over and over . These are a bunch of people who plainly can excuse genocide and many other crimes in that vein while wailing from a non existent moral high ground. They can go and fuck themselves the useless whiny hypocrites .

 

[Casually Red]

Thanks for posting that. Thought I was already convinced that the end is nigh now I feel less optimistic.

I posted it twice ages ago . No notice . Clintons arse and it's draaammaaa time. Priorities right there .

 

[Casually Red]

I'm not "hanging" anything on someone - merely offering some ideas as to why someone chose to summarise his attitude in that way.

The "evident misogyny", although it rides in on the back of his clear hatred of Clinton, is a different matter altogether. His readiness to use misogynistic terms (and images) to attack her speaks to that.

Somewhat ironically, he has chosen to interpret my objection to his misogynistic crap as signalling support for Clinton, about which he could only be slightly more wrong than he is. So, from what I can tell, he can't actually distinguish his hatred for Clinton-the-presidential-candidate from his hatred for Clinton-the-woman. I'm happy to hang that on him.

Utter bollocks . I've looked through the dead Thatcher thread and there's not a single instance of you or any other of these disingenuous shits wailing misogyny about " ding dong the witch is dead " . All of a sudden it's hatred of women when it comes to this blood soaked , neo liberal fascist . any explanation for that ?

You're talking bollocks the lot of you . Pilger certainly isn't .

 

[greenfield]

Pilger doesn't use your offensive language you misogynist creep

 

[J Ed]

As I said, they're Christians. I wouldn't have been in any rush to join their funding but I think I can understand why they did it.

The people who are donating are not Christians, the gofundme makes no reference to that and I'm not sure what relevance it has anyway. In fact judging by those ostentatiously proclaiming their righteousness based on the fact that they are throwing thousands at the most racist, homophobic and anti-democratic chapter of the GOP in America they are mostly the types that accuse real or imagined non-voters or third party voters of fascism for trying to let a fascist into the WH. Almost to a person they are vociferously anti-Sanders people, which is no surprise since the sort of liberal that has the sort of disposable income laying around to contribute to an opposing political party is exactly the sort who would be against Sanders.

I just cannot get my head around these people who attack people for not voting because it will let these dastardly, awful, racist fascists but who also are willing to donate money to them. Incredible.

 

[DotCommunist]

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/wi...tm_medium=recirculation&utm_campaign=mondayPM

The bare fact that they were even having that conversation should have made this self-evident, even to this collection of meritocratic centrist androids: Here they were, being challenged hard and unexpectedly from the left by a septuagenarian garden gnome with no party backing, operating pretty much entirely out of a playbook of democratic-socialist domestic policy, while the Republican primary campaign was being thrown into chaos by a nativist ham ogre, and the consensus in the top levels of the Clinton braintrust was, Hmm probably we should not signal too much intent to improve the lives of poor and working-class Americans right now, or our opponents might have to shoot their own dicks off like Mitt Romney did in 2012.

I feel extremely good about the fact that these clueless, cynical, spineless chickenshits will probably be running the United States government in a few months. All of this is working out super great.

 

[TomUS]

Illegal immigrants are voting all over the country!

“When you look at the voter fraud, when you look at illegal immigrants voting all over the country, when you look at people that died 10 years ago -- I mean, there is one person that died 21 years ago and that person is still voting,” he said. “Was a Republican now, votes Democrat, which is sort of an interesting phenomena. We have voters all over the country where they are not even citizens of the country and they are voting.”

Donald Trump stokes fears of voter fraud

 

[Idris2002]

The people who are donating are not Christians, the gofundme makes no reference to that and I'm not sure what relevance it has anyway. In fact judging by those ostentatiously proclaiming their righteousness based on the fact that they are throwing thousands at the most racist, homophobic and anti-democratic chapter of the GOP in America they are mostly the types that accuse real or imagined non-voters or third party voters of fascism for trying to let a fascist into the WH. Almost to a person they are vociferously anti-Sanders people, which is no surprise since the sort of liberal that has the sort of disposable income laying around to contribute to an opposing political party is exactly the sort who would be against Sanders.

I just cannot get my head around these people who attack people for not voting because it will let these dastardly, awful, racist fascists but who also are willing to donate money to them. Incredible.

I think it's a good tactical manouevre - when the loons bring the guns out, the liberals will be able to say "no, we were the bigger persons".

 

[kabbes]

I think it's a good tactical manouevre - when the loons bring the guns out, the liberals will be able to say "no, we were the bigger persons".

Yeah, it's a gambit, but not a big one. In chess, it would be a pawn sacrifice to gain better position.

 

[butchersapron]

I think it's a good tactical manouevre - when the loons bring the guns out, the liberals will be able to say "no, we were the bigger persons".

...but...so what? It's not going to win any votes or change anything. Give that money to something serious - even a crap liberal charity or something.

 

[Idris2002]

...but...so what? It's not going to win any votes or change anything. Give that money to something serious - even a crap liberal charity or something.

But Butchers, don't you want to be the change you want to see in the world?

 

[gawkrodger]

This is quite good, and here seems the most relevant thread for it

There is no neutral there: Appalachia as a mythic “Trump Country”

 

[butchersapron]

This is quite good, and here seems the most relevant thread for it

There is no neutral there: Appalachia as a mythic “Trump Country”

Good piece, needs some humans in there though

 

[Tankus]

So how many dead does trump think are going to rise up and vote democrat..?

Just how many would need to reanimate to make a significant statistical difference......?

And what is the trump campaign doing to change the voting intentions of the dead ....and get them to switch to the dark side ?

We should be told !

 

[bimble]

 

[killer b]

Good piece, needs some humans in there though

What's the UK equivalent? Rotherham or margate?

 

[FridgeMagnet]

"Voter fraud" is a long-running Republican thing, despite there being no actual evidence for it; it's been used to pass laws in many states with the deliberate intention of disenfranchising specific groups of voters. It's a bit late for people, particularly Republicans, to start saying "oh wow Trump is nuts look at what he's come out with now". Even "unofficial poll watchers" wasn't his idea.

 

[Idris2002]

"Voter fraud" is a long-running Republican thing, despite there being no actual evidence for it; it's been used to pass laws in many states with the deliberate intention of disenfranchising specific groups of voters. It's a bit late for people, particularly Republicans, to start saying "oh wow Trump is nuts look at what he's come out with now". Even "unofficial poll watchers" wasn't his idea.

There was a thing in the New Yorker last year (I think) about the Republikaner in charge of this drive to whip up voter fraud fury. Turns out he's the son of a Croat Ustasha quisling.

 

[DotCommunist]

 

[krtek a houby]

Utter bollocks . I've looked through the dead Thatcher thread and there's not a single instance of you or any other of these disingenuous shits wailing misogyny about " ding dong the witch is dead " . All of a sudden it's hatred of women when it comes to this blood soaked , neo liberal fascist . any explanation for that ?

You're talking bollocks the lot of you . Pilger certainly isn't .

It's always been hatred of women, though. Rebecca Brooks?

 

[bimble]

I'm not defending CR but the fact is there are no masculine equivalents in English for words like harpie, harridan, bitch, witch.
If you want to denigrate a female person who you personally hate then there's a huge compendium of nasty words for 'woman' available to pick from. If there were equivalent words for a man they'd probably have been used about Trump every day but there aren't.
When CR uses those gendered insults instead of just explaining what it is about Clinton 's ideas and actions that he hates, he does weaken his position and look like a woman hating twit though so would be wise to stop even if just to prevent other thread ending up being all about him.

 

[butchersapron]

I'm not defending CR but the fact is there are no masculine equivalents in English for words like harpie, harridan, bitch, witch.
If you want to denigrate a female person who you personally hate then there's a huge compendium of nasty words for 'woman' available to pick from. If there were equivalent words for a man they'd probably have been used about Trump every day but there aren't.
When CR uses those gendered insults instead of just explaining what it is about Clinton 's ideas and actions that he hates, he does weaken his position and look like a woman hating twit though so would be wise to stop even if just to prevent other thread ending up being all about him.

You are defending him and his use. You're doing it because you like him and what he says.

 

[kabbes]

I'm not defending CR but the fact is there are no masculine equivalents in English for words like harpie, harridan, bitch, witch.
If you want to denigrate a female person who you personally hate then there's a huge compendium of nasty words for 'woman' available to pick from. If there were equivalent words for a man they'd probably have been used about Trump every day but there aren't.
When CR uses those gendered insults instead of just explaining what it is about Clinton 's ideas and actions that he hates, he does weaken his position and look like a woman hating twit though so would be wise to stop even if just to prevent other thread ending up being all about him.

You realise you shook out all the pieces of the jigsaw, there, but then assembled them into the wrong picture?

 

[butchersapron]

I'm not defending CR but the fact is there are no masculine equivalents in English for words like harpie, harridan, bitch, witch.

Poor boy, forced to do so lack of. He didn't understand how to express what he expressed.

We know what he said and what it meant.

 

[bimble]

You are defending him and his use. You're doing it because you like him and what he says.

What do you think I like about what he says? I really don't. Shouldn't have said anything , just made it all about him again.
I agree he should stop using those words and that using them makes him look like his problem with Clinton is that she's a woman.

 

[belboid]

I'm not defending CR but the fact is there are no masculine equivalents in English for words like harpie, harridan, bitch, witch.
If you want to denigrate a female person who you personally hate then there's a huge compendium of nasty words for 'woman' available to pick from. If there were equivalent words for a man they'd probably have been used about Trump every day but there aren't.
When CR uses those gendered insults instead of just explaining what it is about Clinton 's ideas and actions that he hates, he does weaken his position and look like a woman hating twit though so would be wise to stop even if just to prevent other thread ending up being all about him.

You're not defending CR, and yet, you are doing.

It's quite simple, if you don't want to be a misogynist, don't use misogynist language. Or defend those who do.

 

[belboid]

What do you think I like about what he says? I really don't. Shouldn't have said anything , just made it all about me again.

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