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Donald Trump, the road that might not lead to the White House!
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Johnny Canuck3
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I agree, but given the tenor of this thread, it seems like that simple fact, bears regular repeating.
bluescreen
tofu eating wokerati
Because otherwise the US voters on here, and the couple of dozen who follow online without registering, might otherwise forget.
Me, I'm following CR's posts with avid attention and an ever widening jaw.
Casually Red
tomorrow belongs to me
There's no sexism whatsoever. Your a liar, and exceptionally dense one .
Neither Michelle Obama nor Laura Bush were politicians, Hilllary Clinton is . She was personally responsible for legislation in that administration . Bill gave her the responsibility. They advertised themselves as 2 for one deal.
Here's it explained for you. Not that you'll even bother your arse reading it. She wielded executive power despite being unelected thanks to her husband who just gave it to her . She also wielded great influence over her husband .
Here, thicko. You sound like you only just heard of her.
Bill and Hillary's double trouble: Clinton's 'two for the price of
Casually Red
tomorrow belongs to me
Well if he said he never met him because he was too busy dodging Bosnian snipers you might have a valid critism . Unfortunately for you Killary was the one dodging imaginary non existent Bosnian snipers . A serial bullshitter .
Johnny Canuck3
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... but you still believe her when she says she wants to 'face down Russia'?
Casually Red
tomorrow belongs to me
Yes. Because she's a proven warmonger with the neo con warmongering elite in her political stable. As opposed to an actual Bosnian sniper dodger .
I also believe her when she says her name is Hillary Clinton. I don't however believe her when she claims she was named after Edmund Hillary who climbed Everest. Because he didn't do that until 6 years after she was born .
Nor do I believe her when she currently claims to be 5 foot 7 . Because she was 5 foot five in 2008 and middle aged women dont get growth spurts .
And those are just wee lies she just can't help . She's a serial bullshitter about lots of very serious stuff. And a crook who just rigged her selection as a candidate . But that hasn't even caused liberals to blink. Nothing will. It's a cult . A very smug cult like fawning over a smug , murderous crook , warmonger and serial liar .
I also believe her when she says her name is Hillary Clinton. I don't however believe her when she claims she was named after Edmund Hillary who climbed Everest. Because he didn't do that until 6 years after she was born .
Nor do I believe her when she currently claims to be 5 foot 7 . Because she was 5 foot five in 2008 and middle aged women dont get growth spurts .
And those are just wee lies she just can't help . She's a serial bullshitter about lots of very serious stuff. And a crook who just rigged her selection as a candidate . But that hasn't even caused liberals to blink. Nothing will. It's a cult . A very smug cult like fawning over a smug , murderous crook , warmonger and serial liar .
Johnny Canuck3
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Facing down Russia is pretty serious stuff.
The thing about a bullshitter, is it's hard to tell if they're bullshitting, or telling the truth.
Personally, I think you choose to believe things that she says [or at least say you do], if believing them, somehow advances your cause.
She did indeed & I admire her for it. I happened to be in Seattle when she kicked of the campaign for it. She couldn't be heard because of the right wing wackos shouting her down & carrying signs calling her a communist.
Ted Striker
Foot's on the other hand
I consider the pro-Trump argument centered around the effectiveness of both? No one has the capability (let alone will...) of HC to do her Republican-in-Disguise act and take congress etc with her. Trump will get nowhere. Half his party already hate him and he'll get nothing through congress. Just 4 years of facepalmery and inert fash/racist ranting. He'll also take the heat back off the UK at being the wallys of the world.
Yossarian
Get thee behind me, Santa
Has anyone told him yet that Donald Trump is fucking Jodie Foster?
That's pretty much how I see it too. Hillary can do things that Trump just can't. Like invade places for example. If Trump says "let's invade Egypt" everyone will say "oh fuck off, right-wing warmonger." But if Hillary says it everyone will go "oh she's a liberal so must be better than Trump who would obviously have invaded both Egypt and Tunisia, so I suppose we might as well avert our gaze and let her do her thing." I know how these people's minds work.
Fair play, that's actually pretty cool the way he points to his penis when he says "he will respect me." Sort of emphasizing the difference.
That would work too.
It would be a completely despicable thing to do, and it might well lead to Mexican families starving to death while their government wondered wtf to do, but if he's enough of a bastard to carry it through, it would work.
Johnny Canuck3
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So he can build the wall without people going 'right wing asshole'; but if he tries to invade somewhere, they'll go 'right wing warmonger'?
Logical consistency seems to be in short supply here.
Actually, I call bullshit on Phil. He's too smart to actually believe what he's saying here. He's just trolling to try and drum up an argument.
Perhaps you could point out the flaw in his plan?
Seems to me the only flaw is ethical, and that won't trouble him too much.
8den
No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...
It implies that Mexico will have no alternative recourse or actions. Furthermore blocking guest worker visas will cripple, among other things, US Agriculture.
The plan forsees no mexican action other than capitulation.
And capitulate is exactly what the current Mexican government would do. After noisy protests no doubt, but the PRI aren't about to get into a fight with the USA.
There would be no need to block any visas, simply threatening to require ID in order to wire money would do the job.
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
I'm sorry, but being an isolationist doesn't necessarily translate into peace. His whole pattern of thinking (or not-thinking really) shows that he's just not suited to the job. If someone says something even slightly in disagreement with him, he takes to twitter and carpet bombs them in spite. I don't like to think what would happen if you pair such a petty personality with real weapons instead of metaphorical ones.
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
Vincente Fox already told him to go fuck himself (in those exact words). I seriously doubt if the current leadership in Mexico is going to react any better.
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
I'm loving every minute of this . The guys a fucking legend .
I think I figured out why you want this freak to be President. You figure he's so bad that he has a real possibility of undermining the US on the long-term.
Yuwipi Woman
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That depends on who ends up taking the Senate. If the Republicans get the senate, he's stupid enough to sign anything they pass. If the Dems get the senate, then its likely you're correct. I know there's a lot of attention on the race for President, but the real race is in the House and Senate. Whoever end up in control of those, will control the next four years, not whoever is elected President.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
he's also got a thing for Strongmen types.
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
The current leadership in Mexico would be only too happy to do anything Trump says if it meant they could retain power.
The only hope is that a massive tide of popular outrage would force them to defy him.
Yuwipi Woman
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If I were a Mexican citizen, I'd be pretty outraged at the mere suggestion. Its been a long time since I was there, but they seemed to be just as proud of their country as Americans tend to be of ours.
8den
No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...
No. Leaving aside that it's not the 1980s and there are a plethora of different ways to transfer money, Mexico is not going to undertake the logistics of of such a border wall, never mind the finance.
Even his own party says the wall is unworkable and as border runs through both private and public land. The only thing that the border wall if built will prevent is the migratory patterns of hundreds of species, with potentially tragic effect.
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Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
There's already a border wall along some of it. It's also prevents the migratory patterns of humans to tragic effect.
Border Deaths Spike 27 Percent, Even As Immigration From Mexico Drops, Report Says
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
on the positive side it might inhibit yanqui attempts to grab more of mexico than they already have.
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