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[Jeff Robinson]

I think the greatest hope against the deranged fascist Trump will be the women of America. Opinion polls show that, unsurprisingly, the majority are not fans of having their federal right to bodily autonomy stripped away from by a panel of judges Trump picked to ensure that would happen. I hope the attack ads focus strongly on this, featuring Trump bragging about being responsible for overturning Roe v Wade. Meanwhile here's hoping the non-stop bombardment with criminal prosecutions and civil lawsuits will be able to physically and mentally break Trump and his cronies. Looks like Giuliani is destined to die broke, alone and rotting in a cell (as long as Trump isn't elected president to pardon him). Here's hoping the same will be true of cheeto Mussolini!

 

[Ax^]

still think it will be tight but the fact that he just frankly admitting that he going to cause chaos when he get in is going to backfired on him

not really a middle ground electoral picture and polls are showing that the non crazy republican vote is bleeding to RJK as the saner alternative

 

[Jeff Robinson]

I honestly think the attack ads should also focus on Trump's repulsive sexual attitudes towards children. People who have attitudes like this - disgusting, degenerate, sick freaks - should be shunned and preferably jailed. Its pretty shocking:



Also:

I’ve known Jeff [Epstein] for fifteen years. Terrific guy,” Trump told New York Magazine that year for a story headlined “Jeffrey Epstein: International Moneyman of Mystery.” “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-called-epstein-a-terrific-guy-before-denying-relationship-with-him/2019/07/08/a01e0f00-a1be-11e9-bd56-eac6bb02d01d_story.html

In other words, Trump admits he knew that Epstein was raping children and he think's he's 'terrific'. Trump supporters are objectively pro-pedo.

 

[JimW]

still think it will be tight but the fact that he just frankly admitting that he going to cause chaos when he get in is going to backfired on him

not really a middle ground electoral picture and polls are showing that the non crazy republican vote is bleeding to RJK as the saner alternative

I've seen polling saying RJK is actually picking up more Dem waverers at the moment, or last week or so when I read it at least.

 

[Ax^]

I honestly think the attack ads should also focus on Trump's repulsive sexual attitudes towards children. People who have attitudes like this - disgusting, degenerate, sick freaks - should be shunned and preferably jailed. Its pretty shocking:



Also:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-called-epstein-a-terrific-guy-before-denying-relationship-with-him/2019/07/08/a01e0f00-a1be-11e9-bd56-eac6bb02d01d_story.html

In other words, Trump admits he knew that Epstein was raping children and he think's he's 'terrific'. Trump supporters are objectively pro-pedo.

hmm you not remember this story

Woman who accused Donald Trump of raping her at 13 drops lawsuit

Woman had alleged Trump and billionaire Jeffrey Epstein raped her in 1994, which Trump had denied, and the accuser’s attorney filed a voluntary dismissal

www.theguardian.com

women went into hiding because of death threats

 

[Cloo]

I think the greatest hope against the deranged fascist Trump will be the women of America. Opinion polls show that, unsurprisingly, the majority are not fans of having their federal right to bodily autonomy stripped away from by a panel of judges Trump picked to ensure that would happen. I hope the attack ads focus strongly on this, featuring Trump bragging about being responsible for overturning Roe v Wade. Meanwhile here's hoping the non-stop bombardment with criminal prosecutions and civil lawsuits will be able to physically and mentally break Trump and his cronies. Looks like Giuliani is destined to die broke, alone and rotting in a cell (as long as Trump isn't elected president to pardon him). Here's hoping the same will be true of cheeto Mussolini!

Well we've seen some surprising states back abortion rights and I think this is because of the horrific (and entirely true) stories being widely shared. I reckon quite a lot of people passively go along with anti abortion legislation because they don't think about it that much; it seems bad to 'kill babies' and surely all it means is that single girls who get around will have to be a bit more careful? Hardly the end of the world.

But when you are shown that actually if you (or your wife) have complications on your 4th pregnancy these rules could mean you dying from an entirely preventable cause, leaving a widower and 3 kids without their mom. Well, that's different.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

hmm you not remember this story

Woman who accused Donald Trump of raping her at 13 drops lawsuit

Woman had alleged Trump and billionaire Jeffrey Epstein raped her in 1994, which Trump had denied, and the accuser’s attorney filed a voluntary dismissal

www.theguardian.com

women went into hiding because of death threats

I didn't know about that story but I'm not in the least surprised. Some 26 women have accused him of rape, but of course the legal system is stacked against them. Still, at least one brave woman has prevailed, and now it is not libelous to call Trump a rapist. It is also accordingly appropriate to call Trump fans pro-rape filth.

 

[bcuster]

Donald Trump responds to being named in Jeffrey Epstein list

The former president was named in released documents pertaining to a case involving the late financier and convicted sex offender.

www.newsweek.com

 

[bcuster]

Legal experts highlight "lurid" Jack Smith warning that may hint at "scandalous Trump crimes"

New filing includes an "interesting choice of hypotheticals," says attorney George Conway

www.yahoo.com

 

[Ax^]

Good links Bcuster but add a little quote from the link to show what your getting at
like below

Smith’s team in an 82-page filing over the weekend warned an appellate court against granting former President Donald Trump’s claim that he is immune from prosecution because his post-election crusade was an official part of his presidential duties.

“That approach would grant immunity from criminal prosecution to a President who accepts a bribe in exchange for directing a lucrative government contract to the payer; a President who instructs the FBI Director to plant incriminating evidence on a political enemy; a President who orders the National Guard to murder his most prominent critics; or a President who sells nuclear secrets to a foreign adversary,” the filing said.

 

[krtek a houby]

Good links Bcuster but add a little quote from the link to show what your getting at
like below

THANK YOU!

 

[bluescreen]

From that piece:
“Interesting choice of hypotheticals…” replied conservative lawyer and frequent Trump critic George Conway. “It took quite an imagination,” he quipped later.

 

[Ax^]

hypotheticals when anyone going to the loo in mar go largo

could just read the documents piled up around the Khazi


**for BcBuster Khazi = the head

 

[krtek a houby]

hypotheticals when anyone going to the loo in mar go largo

could just read the documents piled up around the Khazi


**for BcBuster Khazi = the head

Mar a Lago farrago

The Nazi and the khazi

The stacks in the jacks

 

[bcuster]

Dozens more Jeffrey Epstein documents are now public. Here’s what we know so far

The first 40 documents, of around 250 expected to eventually be unsealed, mention figures whose names were already known, including high-profile friends of Epstein’s and victims who have spoken publicly.

apnews.com

Trump factor in the court file, partly because Giuffre was questioned by Maxwell’s lawyers about inaccuracies in newspaper stories about her time with Epstein. One story quoted her as saying she had ridden in a helicopter with flirted with Trump.

 

[NoXion]

Who is RJK? He's not that Kennedy bellpiece is he?

 

[Ax^]

he is bobbies son so aye a Kennedy bellpiece

 

[krtek a houby]

Dozens more Jeffrey Epstein documents are now public. Here’s what we know so far

The first 40 documents, of around 250 expected to eventually be unsealed, mention figures whose names were already known, including high-profile friends of Epstein’s and victims who have spoken publicly.

apnews.com

Trump factor in the court file, partly because Giuffre was questioned by Maxwell’s lawyers about inaccuracies in newspaper stories about her time with Epstein. One story quoted her as saying she had ridden in a helicopter with flirted with Trump.

You're misquoting. Here's the actual quote;

Clinton and Trump both factor in the court file, partly because Giuffre was questioned by Maxwell’s lawyers about inaccuracies in newspaper stories about her time with Epstein. One story quoted her as saying she had ridden in a helicopter with Clinton and flirted with Trump. Giuffre said neither of those things actually happened. She hasn’t accused either former president of wrongdoing.

 

[krtek a houby]

Not a snowball's, but would be hilarious* if ruled against running

Supreme Court to rule if Trump can run for president

Lawsuits nationwide are seeking to disqualify Mr Trump, arguing that he engaged in insurrection.

www.bbc.co.uk

*Also might just tip Trumpists into serious violence, which obviously isn't hilarious

 

[tim]

Not a snowball's, but would be hilarious* if ruled against running

Supreme Court to rule if Trump can run for president

Lawsuits nationwide are seeking to disqualify Mr Trump, arguing that he engaged in insurrection.

www.bbc.co.uk

*Also might just tip Trumpists into serious violence, which obviously isn't hilarious

If banning a candidate who might beat you in a Presidential election is good enough for Putin, it's good enough for Biden, isn't it?

 

[Yossarian]

If banning a candidate who might beat you in a Presidential election is good enough for Putin, it's good enough for Biden, isn't it?

If the Supreme Court bans Trump from the ballot, which is incredibly unlikely, it won't be Biden's doing - it'll take a 5-4 majority in a court with six Republican appointees and three Democratic appointees, including one Biden appointee.

Not sure Biden would want to block Trump from running even if he could - the most likely Republican nominee if Trump is out of the picture is Nikki Haley, who is 30 years younger than Biden and is, in some polls, polling better against him than Trump in hypothetical head-to-heads.

 

[Rob Ray]

a candidate who might beat you

What an odd way of putting "a candidate who'd previously incited a large crowd he'd spent months lying to about election fraud, leading to a riot that stormed parliament and killed a bunch of people."

I mean if I'd done that, as an anarchist rather than a former president, I'd still be very much serving time. Getting on ballots wouldn't really be an option (not that I'd be aiming to, but still).

 

[phildwyer]

the trump bible if he lose the next election

Following the arrest of Trump, Nikki Haley denied knowing him three times, but after the third denial, she heard the rooster crow and recalled the prediction as Jesus turned to look at her, Nikki then began to cry bitterly

Doesn't really work, as Haley is Trump's main opponent rather than a disciple. Lindsey Graham as Judas on the other hand...

 

[phildwyer]

I didn't know about that story but I'm not in the least surprised. Some 26 women have accused him of rape, but of course the legal system is stacked against them. Still, at least one brave woman has prevailed, and now it is not libelous to call Trump a rapist. It is also accordingly appropriate to call Trump fans pro-rape filth.

Yes, this is the kind of hysteria they're going to rely on. No charge will be too wild, no language too inflammatory. The neo-cons are absolutely desperate to keep Trump out of office, and willing to employ any means in order to do so. They will throw around rape charges, they will trample the constitution underfoot, they will stop at nothing at all.

This is in itself a very good reason to look favorably on Trump's candidacy. But how can we explain it? The answer is that the neo-cons sincerely (and not unreasonably) see the prospect of Trump's re-election as an existential threat. Remember that they are animated by one over-riding and absolute imperative: they MUST destroy Iran before it acquires a nuclear bomb. That will require getting rid of Assad first, and possibly Putin too. They know that time is against them, and they simply cannot afford to lose another four years to Trump. Their backs are against the wall, and they are becoming both dangerous and desperate.

 

[Ax^]

if he get the GOP nomination he'll ask her to be his running mate so it works

 

[phildwyer]

Not sure Biden would want to block Trump from running even if he could - the most likely Republican nominee if Trump is out of the picture is Nikki Haley, who is 30 years younger than Biden and is, in some polls, polling better against him than Trump in hypothetical head-to-heads.

In which polls does Haley do better against Biden than Trump? Every one I've seen has her at least 30 points behind.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

In which polls does Haley do better against Biden than Trump? Every one I've seen has her at least 30 points behind.

Only in all of them. I think you're conflating her polling against Biden with her polling against Trump.


MSN:

MSN

WSJ:

Opinion | Haley vs. Trump vs. Biden

She beats the President by 17 in the latest WSJ poll. Trump wins by 4.

www.wsj.com

Politico:

Why Nikki Haley polls better against Joe Biden than Donald Trump does

A POLITICO analysis shows the former South Carolina governor is winning swaths of moderate voters who'd pick Joe Biden if Donald Trump wins the GOP nomination.

www.politico.com

Keep in mind that the election is still months away.

 

[phildwyer]

Only in all of them. I think you're conflating her polling against Biden with her polling against Trump.


MSN:

MSN

WSJ:

Opinion | Haley vs. Trump vs. Biden

She beats the President by 17 in the latest WSJ poll. Trump wins by 4.

www.wsj.com

Politico:

Why Nikki Haley polls better against Joe Biden than Donald Trump does

A POLITICO analysis shows the former South Carolina governor is winning swaths of moderate voters who'd pick Joe Biden if Donald Trump wins the GOP nomination.

www.politico.com

Keep in mind that the election is still months away.

I hadn't seen the head-to-head polls, no. But Haley has no chance of winning the nomination, so they're interesting but irrelevant.

 

[gosub]

Yes, this is the kind of hysteria they're going to rely on. No charge will be too wild, no language too inflammatory. The neo-cons are absolutely desperate to keep Trump out of office, and willing to employ any means in order to do so. They will throw around rape charges, they will trample the constitution underfoot, they will stop at nothing at all.

This is in itself a very good reason to look favorably on Trump's candidacy. But how can we explain it? The answer is that the neo-cons sincerely (and not unreasonably) see the prospect of Trump's re-election as an existential threat. Remember that they are animated by one over-riding and absolute imperative: they MUST destroy Iran before it acquires a nuclear bomb. That will require getting rid of Assad first, and possibly Putin too. They know that time is against them, and they simply cannot afford to lose another four years to Trump. Their backs are against the wall, and they are becoming both dangerous and desperate.

So basically its all a Zionist conspiracy.

 

[phildwyer]

So basically its all a Zionist conspiracy.

No. But the USA is no longer prepared to allow any militant anti-Zionist to control state power. Not Saddam, not Gaddafi, not Morsi, not Assad and certainly not the Ayatollahs. The stakes are too high now. And if Putin stands in the way of their removal, then Putin has to go too.