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[krtek a houby]

This is the thing which baffles me about certain posters still posting here.


We know Trump wants to be a dictator (beyond just day one)
We know Trump wants to restrict or even stop elections
We know Trump wants to only have judges he appointed, following laws only he approves.

If you support Trump, as certain posters do, you support the destruction of American democracy and the implementation of a dictatorship.

But PR1, American democracy is a sham...

 

[Jeff Robinson]

This is the thing which baffles me about certain posters still posting here.


We know Trump wants to be a dictator (beyond just day one)
We know Trump wants to restrict or even stop elections
We know Trump wants to only have judges he appointed, following laws only he approves.

If you support Trump, as certain posters do, you support the destruction of American democracy and the implementation of a dictatorship.

They also support the destruction of Ukrainian democracy and the implementation of a Russian puppet dictatorship.

 

[PR1Berske]

They also support the destruction of Ukrainian democracy and the implementation of a Russian puppet dictatorship.

. Oh dear.

 

[likesfish]

Trump is ignorant
He does not understand that the USA has a massive effect on the rest of the world regardless of anyone’s wishes .
America doesn’t really understand it’s an imperial power.
You can’ t just decide to leave the world stage because it’s inconvenient

 

[Ax^]

I don't know, have you been to the border lately? Things are pretty chaotic down there. The Mexican border towns are filling up with refugees from all over the world, and none of them have any idea of their status vis-a-vis the USA. There was a whole encampment of Ukrainians in TJ a few weeks ago, it suddenly disappeared, no idea where they went. There are loads of Haitians milling around with no money and no resources, in fact some of them are finding jobs and trying to settle down in Mexico. It's obvious that no-one in charge knows what the hell is going on, on either side of la linea. I don't blame "Biden" because the man is obviously senile, but whoever's running the government is doing a seriously terrible job of administering immigration.

oh fuck off ya big lamp

seriously getting into dodgy territory you are now coming across as a racist bullshite peddler

 

[existentialist]

oh fuck off ya big lamp

seriously getting into dodgy territory you are now coming across as a racist bullshite peddler

Enjoy it while it lasts.

 

[Ax^]

hopefully someone wakes up and deals with the guy repeating dogma from fox news

mass Ukrainians and Haitians on the border the fuck with the maga assclown

Mexico got around 2000 people from Ukraine
he is now in propoganda plain and simple

 

[PR1Berske]

What we can now say without a doubt is that trump is not an honest man, nor is he a man with any mercy, and when he had Presidential power, he never found a bottom too low he would not use and abuse to keep it. He literally used every ounce of his power to help and serve himself, every single time.

Additionally, based on the slavish and sycophantic behaviors of the trump cult, “conservative” media and the GOP towards him, what we now see is that something was missing from Lincoln’s famous power test. The missing piece is a psychological understanding of what happens to those who have been groomed, propagandized and gaslit away from truth and reality, and into believing narcissistic abuse is the best use of power, because they grade this test on a completely different curve.

The MAGA Cabal Re-Enters Stealth Mode - Part I

“One day" dictator circular psyop trickery.

open.substack.com

 

[Jeff Robinson]

The MAGA cult are one of the most dangerous mass-cult phenomena in history. Even if Trump isn’t elected and even if he is elected but too incompetent to execute his evil plans, the MAGA cultists have unleashed a form of barbarism hitherto confined to subcultures like the moonies and Scientologists - a mass mentality completely impervious to logic, reason, evidence, facts, basic moral norms and democratic values. Trump has tapped into the dark primordial forces of hatred, fear and slavish worship of the ‘leader’ and turbo-charged them into a deranged, nihilistic political movement. He’s laid the template for any future demagogue.

 

[tim]

On border patrol?

Borer patrol

 

[Jeff Robinson]

In his dreams. Al Capone lived by a code at least, however warped it was, Trump believes in nothing but power and humiliation.

Trump likens himself to the ‘great’ Al Capone at Reno rally: Live

The former president already under fire for reviving vicious ‘blood and soil’ anti-immigrant sentiment at New Hampshire event on Saturday

www.independent.co.uk

 

[krtek a houby]

In his dreams. Al Capone lived by a code at least, however warped it was, Trump believes in nothing but power and humiliation.

Trump likens himself to the ‘great’ Al Capone at Reno rally: Live

The former president already under fire for reviving vicious ‘blood and soil’ anti-immigrant sentiment at New Hampshire event on Saturday

www.independent.co.uk

His pretending not to be a fucking racist shit, all the time making the dog whistles, is repulsive.

Yeah, Biden is (as expected) a disappointment but holy fuck, this guy is dangerous.

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

the MAGA cultists have unleashed a form of barbarism hitherto confined to subcultures like the moonies and Scientologists

They are more akin to the mainstream Christian fundamentalists that ignore even the internal logic of their own bible. . . In fact that appears to be what a lot of them are. If they can already ignore basic rights and wrongs in their faith, and see 'facts' as anything they choose to be correct, then they are already the perfect magas.

 

[petee]

Donald Trump banned from Colorado ballot in historic ruling by state's Supreme Court

A divided Colorado Supreme Court on Tuesday declared former President Donald Trump ineligible for the White House under the U.S. Constitution’s insurrection clause and removed him from the state’s presidential primary ballot, setting up a likely showdown in the nation’s highest court to decide...

www.yahoo.com

 

[Yossarian]

I don't think the Supreme Court is any more likely to approve this than Trump is to select Colin Kaepernick as his running mate, but at least the legal fight will stretch his lawyers/campaign finances even further

 

[Jeff Robinson]

I don't think the Supreme Court is any more likely to approve this than Trump is to select Colin Kaepernick as his running mate, but at least the legal fight will stretch his lawyers/campaign finances even further

Hard to know with the Supreme Court. The rightwing bloc are despicable, but for their own self-interest they don’t want a presidential dictatorship, they want to be the dictators - which for all intents and purposes they currently are.

This will surely be the most important Supreme Court decision since Dred Scott (on the legality of slavery). The Supreme Court made a disastrous decision then, plunging the US into civil war. It would be similarly disastrous if they allowed a rapist pedophile who tried to overthrow democracy on the ballot, a Trump win could well ensure civil war, as no civilised person would ever tolerate living under the second Trump term.

 

[spring-peeper]

Can the Federal Supreme Court override the State Supreme Court?

I ask google and it told me that

State supreme court's interpretation of any state law is generally final and binding to both state and federal courts. Federal courts may overrule a state supreme court decision only when there is a federal question which springs up a federal jurisdiction.

????

 

[Nylock]

Donald Trump banned from Colorado ballot in historic ruling by state's Supreme Court

A divided Colorado Supreme Court on Tuesday declared former President Donald Trump ineligible for the White House under the U.S. Constitution’s insurrection clause and removed him from the state’s presidential primary ballot, setting up a likely showdown in the nation’s highest court to decide...

www.yahoo.com

the trump campaign released a predictably unhinged press release in response to the decision. You can bet it was less unhinged and hyperbolic than what the margarine menace originally spewed forth....

 

[spring-peeper]

the trump campaign released a predictably unhinged press release in response to the decision. You can bet it was less unhinged and hyperbolic than what the margarine menace originally spewed forth....

On behalf of us lazy people, could you link us to tht?

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Can the Federal Supreme Court override the State Supreme Court?

I ask google and it told me that

State supreme court's interpretation of any state law is generally final and binding to both state and federal courts. Federal courts may overrule a state supreme court decision only when there is a federal question which springs up a federal jurisdiction.

????

This is about the US constitution, so SCOTUS is the final judicial arbitrator.

The Colorado Supreme Court decision was a close call 4-3 and all 7 judges were liberal appointees. It’s been tossed out in other states. So it’s already a controversial legal argument amongst liberals. At the same time, it has currency amongst some conservative judges and influential legal scholars too. I’d predict SCOTUS overruling Colorado but it could go the other way too. Three liberal justices and two ‘moderate’ conservatives (say Roberts and Kavanaugh) could affirm.

 

[Yossarian]

Hard to know with the Supreme Court. The rightwing bloc are despicable, but for their own self-interest they don’t want a presidential dictatorship, they want to be the dictators - which for all intents and purposes they currently are.

This will surely be the most important Supreme Court decision since Dred Scott (on the legality of slavery). The Supreme Court made a disastrous decision then, plunging the US into civil war. It would be similarly disastrous if they allowed a rapist pedophile who tried to overthrow democracy on the ballot, a Trump win could well ensure civil war, as no civilised person would ever tolerate living under the second Trump term.

I think the Supreme Court might make a narrow ruling with an argument along the same lines as one of the dissenting justices in Colorado - Trump has not been convicted of engaging in insurrection, and was acquitted in a trial in the Senate, and shouldn't be disqualified without a conviction.

“Even if we are convinced that a candidate committed horrible acts in the past — dare I say, engaged in insurrection — there must be procedural due process before we can declare that individual disqualified from holding public office,” Justice Carlos Samour Jr. wrote in his dissent.

 

[Dogsauce]

I don't think the Supreme Court is any more likely to approve this than Trump is to select Colin Kaepernick as his running mate, but at least the legal fight will stretch his lawyers/campaign finances even further

What the legal fight will do is allow him to continue presenting himself as ‘The candidate THEY don’t want you to have the freedom to vote for’. Democrat party law fare just feeds right into this, and I’m not sure they’re self-aware enough to realise it.

 

[redsquirrel]

What the legal fight will do is allow him to continue presenting himself as ‘The candidate THEY don’t want you to have the freedom to vote for’. Democrat party law fare just feeds right into this, and I’m not sure they’re self-aware enough to realise it.

Yes, I'm highly skeptical as to this hurting Trump. Whatever legal setback it is (and I'm not sure it is much of that), politically it does nothing to harm Trump, and probably helps him a bit.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

What the legal fight will do is allow him to continue presenting himself as ‘The candidate THEY don’t want you to have the freedom to vote for’. Democrat party law fare just feeds right into this, and I’m not sure they’re self-aware enough to realise it.

Important to remember that this lawsuit was brought by Republican voters who were inspired by a legal theory developed by ultra-conservative legal scholars (the founders of the ultra-conservative Federalist Society). The democrats have nothing to do with it.

As for the election interference, official document theft and hush money cases, to call them ‘lawfare’ is to repeat the propaganda of the republicans. There is very credible evidence that Trump committed a series of of very serious crimes. If anything, the fact it’s taken the authorities this long to take action shows that Trump has been treated with kid gloves. Literally anybody else who did what he did would already be behind bars for the rest of his life.

 

[phildwyer]

I predicted they'd pull a move like this weeks ago, when Kagan and Frum started inciting an anti-Trump coup:

Why did Maine and Colorado disqualify Trump from their ballots?

Decisions stem from the US constitution’s insurrection clause and could have major ramifications for 2024 election

www.theguardian.com

 

[Jeff Robinson]

I predicted they'd pull a move like this weeks ago, when Kagan and Frum started inciting an anti-Trump coup:

Why did Maine and Colorado disqualify Trump from their ballots?

Decisions stem from the US constitution’s insurrection clause and could have major ramifications for 2024 election

www.theguardian.com

Wow, weeks ago you predicted a lawsuit that’s been in the headlines for months? Impressive work Nostradamus. Here’s my prediction: you will continue posting brainless wank on here until your long overdue banning.

 

[Nylock]

On behalf of us lazy people, could you link us to tht?

I saw it on a youtube vid last night. If I find it later I'll post it up.

 

[PR1Berske]

 

[ska invita]

re illegal migration in the US it does seems to be a peak at the moment

Immigration: Is US-Mexico border seeing a surge in migrants?

Donald Trump says migrants are crossing the border like the US "has never seen". We've checked the numbers.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

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