Donald Trump: hands off our NHS! petition hits 131,000 in a day
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toblerone3
Grrrrr
join. the. dots. a post-Brexit UK-US trade deal is not going to be the easiest trade deal in history. The multilateralism that the EU represents is the best way to counter the animality and bullying that are, in the current iteration of the international system, part and parcel of all bilateral trade negotiations. Slap the lexiteers in the face, they are cunts.
It would be more effective if we had a proper government.
ItWillNeverWork
Messy Crimbobs, fellow humans.
Nah, fuck Corbyn for having no integrity to actually follow up his on 40 years of anti-EU rhetoric. If Labour had got behind Brexit from the get go, they would be miles ahead in the polls, and the Brexit Party wouldn't even exist.
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
Don’t think the Labour Party would either, given the overwhelming preferences of membership and voters.
ItWillNeverWork
Messy Crimbobs, fellow humans.
Its amazing how everybody else but the people who voted for this mess is to blameget behind what exactly? Still brexit supporters don't actually know what brexit means....
It means leaving an unaccountable neoliberal kleptocracy, single market and customs union included.
If Corbyn had any spine it would also have included reunifying Ireland, replacing the house of lords with an elected chamber, nationalising key industries, providing state aid to British Steel, giving tax incentives and loans to worker managed firms, and having a Keynesian stimulus plan to smooth over any transition problems while the economy adjusts to being outside the EU.
Periods of crisis are opportunities that can easily be lost. Corbyn and his fellow left-remainers fucked it up. For now at least. Get your act together, people.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
It would be, but signed anyway.
It's gone over the original target of 200k, so the target has been put up to 300k.
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
I wonder did someone have a word in his ear about it?
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Proving once again what a complete fucking idiot he is.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
219,000
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Surely people can do both?
kalidarkone
Bringing YOU round.....
Signed and shared.
mwgdrwg
Be a Pisces. Jam.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Sort of signed accidentally (got an email from them, clicked a link to check it out but it was actually "sign up with one click"), but:
I think there is a govt one going around too, somewhere. There's probably a few, as is the way with these things. Always wish there was a bit more coordination on these issues, with a single well-argued petition with clear demands being the one that everyone signs.
Generally not the case, though.
This, a bit.
I think there is a govt one going around too, somewhere. There's probably a few, as is the way with these things. Always wish there was a bit more coordination on these issues, with a single well-argued petition with clear demands being the one that everyone signs.
Generally not the case, though.
Yossarian
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"I heard there's a sea of blood in those hospitals ... blood everywhere, people being strapped to tables and cut open, limbs being sawn off and incinerated, parts of people's bodies being ripped out and put in other people's bodies ... and you people act like it's normal."
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Petition: Don't put our NHS up for negotiation
Government petition. As ever, wording is distinctly lacking; don't know if there's a better one anywhere.
Government petition. As ever, wording is distinctly lacking; don't know if there's a better one anywhere.
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
It's pretty meaningless because the mechanisms to undermine the NHS are already in place. The ever constant drive for competition between the hospital's and the breaking of national blocks in place of trusts. The results orientated funding and pimping of new treatments and replacement limbs to doctors as well.
editor
hiraethified
I disagree. It'll never replace actual political campaigning/protesting, but that's not for everyone. Petitions can raise the profile and awareness of an issue, and help remind people that they're not alone in being against something - and that may later spur them on to turn up on an actual protest or get politically involved.
ruffneck23
front left
signed
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Smangus
comatose at a desk
Interesting interview with a an ex- trade negotiator in R4 this morning . He said this is not about the services in the NHS being sold per se, but about big US Pharma being unhappy with the prices the NHS pays for drugs which overall is about 30% of the cost to the US health providers.
Also, the NHS prices are used as a "benchmark" for about 25% (from memory) of the worlds health providers for drug prices against which they are compared for value. So the impact across the globe and the potential extra profit for the Pharma firms is absolutely huge if they managed to get a "transparent" pricing structure for drugs written into any deal. The cost of drugs for NHS procurement go up and this is then reflected across the globe = massive extra profits > at our expense.
Also, the NHS prices are used as a "benchmark" for about 25% (from memory) of the worlds health providers for drug prices against which they are compared for value. So the impact across the globe and the potential extra profit for the Pharma firms is absolutely huge if they managed to get a "transparent" pricing structure for drugs written into any deal. The cost of drugs for NHS procurement go up and this is then reflected across the globe = massive extra profits > at our expense.
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