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Doctor Who Series 8

Dr Who's scary reputation is based on a minority of its episodes and is largely a bit condescending. it's no scarier than Star Trek, which also has episodes based on horror themes with monsters that might scare kids.
 
Problem with the show is that it's all banter, easter eggs and style over substance. I want it to get back to actual stories, not clever trickery. That bank heist episode could have been really good but it was spoiled in the end by a predictable timey wimey twist.

And Danny is obviously not dead since we've met his descendant from the future. So why include all the ballache with an officious Chris Addison and that kid from Afghanistan? Was that necessary? That could have been time devoted to Cyberman awesomeness!

Whatever happened to a weekly adventure, largely self contained, not dependent on in-jokes, easter eggs, references and oblique foreshadowing?

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easter eggs is a wank gaming term, when referring to proper artforms we speak of visual clues, inter textual references and plot points

*holds nose in air and watches a program about an alien in a blue magic box*
 
Dr Who's scary reputation is based on a minority of its episodes and is largely a bit condescending. it's no scarier than Star Trek, which also has episodes based on horror themes with monsters that might scare kids.


its not based on a handful of episodes. Its based on pitching episodes just scary enough so that young kids don'tactually shit themselves and cry but do get a bit scaredy. Hence the famous 'hiding behind the sofa/cushion' trope, all done in fun and the doctor always saves the day and kills the monsters. Its how it has always been

anyway todayskids have it even easier- for them as really shit it you can watch Doctor Who Extra so the kids can see behind the curtain and the man in the monster suit
 
its not based on a handful of episodes. Its based on pitching episodes just scary enough so that young kids don'tactually shit themselves and cry but do get a bit scaredy. Hence the famous 'hiding behind the sofa/cushion' trope, all done in fun and the doctor always saves the day and kills the monsters. Its how it has always been

anyway todayskids have it even easier- for them as really shit it you can watch Doctor Who Extra so the kids can see behind the curtain and the man in the monster suit
Not every episode is scary, nor were they intended to be scary. Not even half. Some were (Image of Fendahl, Kinda/Snakedance, Robots of Death, Blink) most weren't.

I'm not even sure what the whole point of the dark water was for? To hide some cybermen in a museum?
 
easter eggs is a wank gaming term, when referring to proper artforms we speak of visual clues, inter textual references and plot points

*holds nose in air and watches a program about an alien in a blue magic box*
Excellent work. And now all I need is for you to reject the ridiculous use of story arc (which already has a perfectly good technical meaning) instead of subplot.
 
Great lines, yes.

But they alone don't make a story. Theis season has been full of great lines, but the stories are just bizarre. What on earth was all that "don't cremate me" stuff about? Bit grim!

The Master/Mistress is assembling a Cyberman army constituted of anyone who was ever buried (remember her point about the dead outnumbering the living?). The "don't cremate me" message was obviously a spiel to convince mankind to stop burning bodies/valuable Cyberman resources.
 
I wish they could find a way to make the current Cybermen as scary as those weird old ones are. (And I'm not saying that for nostalgia reasons, cos they were before my time.)
 
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I wish they could find a way to make the current Cybermen as scary as those weird old ones are. (And I'm not saying that for nostalgia reasons, cos they were before my time.)
They were, when they were first rebooted and they deleted people and sent the rest to the room of chopping and cutting to become cybered up. Since then they've inexplicably appeared at random and done not much, even fight Daleks!
 
They were, when they were first rebooted and they deleted people and sent the rest to the room of chopping and cutting to become cybered up. Since then they've inexplicably appeared at random and done not much, even fight Daleks!
True, that episode was quite scary.
They just need to look... heavier and more roboty and substantial. They always just look like blokes in a slightly homemade cardboard costume.
 
Clearly.

And Rassilon was meant to be a good guy, he's the architect of Timelord culture and technology.

Bring back Omega.

i dunno about good guy but he was meant to be a complex mastermind

the entirety of the five doctors is basically rassilon trolling people from beyond the grave

he is't shouty mcangrypants
 
True, that episode was quite scary.
They just need to look... heavier and more roboty and substantial. They always just look like blokes in a slightly homemade cardboard costume.
they *always* looked like that. Honestly - don't look to old who for costumes that look less home made.
 
It was completely cool. Total win.

And here's why:

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That was ruined a bit by it being in the advert. The dark water twist was obvious because if that. I may not of guessed until the music cybus cybernen music played when the Doctor said obvious.
 
i dunno about good guy but he was meant to be a complex mastermind

the entirety of the five doctors is basically rassilon trolling people from beyond the grave

he is't shouty mcangrypants
There was always meant to be ambiguity. I think it was meant to play into the Cartmell masterplan.
 
What's that building all the cybermen walked out of at the end?

I wish they hadn't put the cybermen in the fucking trailer, it made the clever trick with the logo a complete waste of time.
 
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