Doctor Who Series 8

[8den]

Yes... but I'm right

Fuck off. The hierarchy is thus.

It's

Baker
Perwtree
Eccleston
Tenant
McCoy
Smith
Davison
Troughton
Hartnell
McCann
Cushing
Grant
Lumley
Broadbent
Atkinson
Grant
Gatiss

& Crap Baker

In that order.

 

[Vintage Paw]

& Crap Baker

Glad to see Ecclescakes getting some love in that list. He's so often overlooked. That first reboot episode was some dire fucking shit, just absolute dross, but from that point on he was brill.

 

[8den]

Glad to see Ecclescakes getting some love in that list. He's so often overlooked. That first reboot episode was some dire fucking shit, just absolute dross, but from that point on he was brill.

I have worked with much of the crew of new who Ecclescakes just hated the twee bullshit farting aliens crapology and "well I'm a Doctor" he hated much of the bullshit RTD fosted on us hence the heave how. The Doctor Dances with "Everyone lives just this once everyone lives" and his abject hatred of the Daleks. Plus this



Thats my fucking Doctor.

"I WILL TALK TO THE DOCTOR"

"Oh will you? Thats nice. Hello"

Its the perfect Doctor Who moment for me. The Doctor terrifying Daleks because they know they have him out gunned, but he simply doesnt give a shit, is smarter than them, and hates them with the fury of a thousand suns, and the most terrifying species in the universe are bricking it.

 

[ginger_syn]

I reckon James McAvoy would have made a good Doctor... He even looks and sounds similar

(probably be stretching the budget a bit, though)

well capaldi is the doctor now and he's very good in that role, even my mum thinks he's good in it and she just doesn't see the point of sci-fi. there will be a new doctor in a few years or so until then get over it because this sort of stuff is just a bit silly.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Best episode of the series so far IMO.

Yep, I reckon so. From the trailer I was expecting a half-arsed genre pastiche like DW does from time to time, but this was a proper story with a point to it.

 

[Quartz]

I'm noticing a trend of women baddies on the show all being styled in the same way.

It also applies to major female protagonists. E.g. Queen Elizabeth I in the Christmas special and Queen Victoria in Tennant's day. But given that Doctor Who's primary intended audience is rather younger than we are, is this a bad thing? Characterisation has to be strong and simple, and if there's a subtext for the older viewer, that's a bonus.

 

[Vintage Paw]

It also applies to major female protagonists. E.g. Queen Elizabeth I in the Christmas special and Queen Victoria in Tennant's day. But given that Doctor Who's primary intended audience is rather younger than we are, is this a bad thing? Characterisation has to be strong and simple, and if there's a subtext for the older viewer, that's a bonus.

I don't think there's a problem with tropes and types and strong characterisations and caricatures per se -- but I do think it's worth thinking about the ones we use and why.

 

[Awesome Wells]

I don't really have a problem with Capaldi, anything is an improvement on Matt Smith. But i don't really like that he's being written as Smith's curmudgeonly creepy grandad.

 

[magneze]

Great episode. One of the best from top to bottom.

 

[Helen Back]

A disparate group of strangers wake up in a strange room with no recollection of how they got there and no knowledge of who the other people are. They are greeted by a recording of a distorted voice who gives them an objective if they want to escape alive. Danger is imminent so they have to start now or die. They make their way through a maze of traps and puzzles. Some of them die. Only some of the group get to the end where the truth is revealed in quick flashbacks set to distinctive music. The person who put them there is revealed. He is wearing a hood.

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

Some of them die. Only some of the group get to the end where the truth is revealed .

errr... who died?

 

[Helen Back]

Ok, so no-one actually died but they appeared to die. Same difference. Did anyone (who hadn't already read the script) really think they did die when they teleported?

 

[Awesome Wells]

A disparate group of strangers wake up in a strange room with no recollection of how they got there and no knowledge of who the other people are. They are greeted by a recording of a distorted voice who gives them an objective if they want to escape alive. Danger is imminent so they have to start now or die. They make their way through a maze of traps and puzzles. Some of them die. Only some of the group get to the end where the truth is revealed in quick flashbacks set to distinctive music. The person who put them there is revealed. He is wearing a hood.

Sounds like an 80's text adventure game introduction!

>pick up the sword

 

[Helen Back]

"You cannot go up the sword."

 

[danny la rouge]

I didn't like that one as much. It was OK.

 

[Callum91]

My favourite episode so far. Predictable but the plot was interesting, the monster was great and it finally feels like Capaldi has gotten comfy in his shoes as the Dr. A billion times better than last weeks tripe.

 

[Dr_Herbz]

Sounds like an 80's text adventure game introduction!

>pick up the sword

I wrote one of those for the ZX Spectrum

 

[Awesome Wells]

"You cannot go up the sword."

>lift sword

 

[T & P]

My favourite episode so far. Predictable but the plot was interesting, the monster was great and it finally feels like Capaldi has gotten comfy in his shoes as the Dr. A billion times better than last weeks tripe.

The monster was very well accomplished and wouldn't be out of place in a big budget Guillermo del Toro film.

 

[Callum91]

The monster was very well accomplished and wouldn't be out of place in a big budget Guillermo del Toro film.

Aye! Instantly one of my favourite Who baddies. When the guys head caves in... I'd love to be able to do that to folk. ''Ask me for I.D to buy the Lotto will you? I don't think so.''

 

[prunus]

>lift sword

"I cannot see the lift here"

 

[T & P]

That head reminded me of this mugshot from America that can be regularly spotted on teh internets

 

[Lord Camomile]

That head reminded me of this mugshot from America that can be regularly spotted on teh internets

To be honest, it was so similar I thought it was some sort of weird reference, or at very lease they'd seen it and been... inspired

(Or they found someone else with the same condition, but that's got to be fairly slim odds... )

 

[PursuedByBears]

Hmmm. I don't think I liked that one. Maybe I need to watch it again. I liked the monster design, and the rescue mission but the story didn't really grab me. Why didn't the biggest bank in the universe have cctv EVERYWHERE? Why make a big deal about DNA locks and then only use them once? And what was with the crappy JJ Abrams-style lens flaring in every shot? I thought there was going to be an interesting thing about the clones of the big boss getting uppity and rebelling (shades of Duncan Idaho and Leto the God Emperor?) but that didn't go anywhere. Most of all, a caper story is supposed to be fun. Oh well. Not sure about the trailer for next week either.

 

[DotCommunist]

along with lense flare they used a ton of visual cliches suited more to action/heist/crime films and it works

Bringing the monster out in slow mo, led in chains and orange jumpsuited- classic prison film visual cliche for introducing a Truly Hard Character

 

[Kaka Tim]

One of the best of the series so far. Def better than the bollocks from last week. Capaldi is fucking ace.

 

[PursuedByBears]

along with lense flare they used a ton of visual cliches suited more to action/heist/crime films and it works

Bringing the monster out in slow mo, led in chains and orange jumpsuited- classic prison film visual cliche for introducing a Truly Hard Character

OK, I don't usually watch caper-type films so missed all that. Didn't recognise the guest star either. I'll rewatch and reassess.

 

[Vintage Paw]

I thought that head caving in bit was really fucking grim for a kids show.

 

[Vintage Paw]

OK, I don't usually watch caper-type films so missed all that. Didn't recognise the guest star either. I'll rewatch and reassess.

I reckon it's the sign of a guest star used well when some people come away not having recognised them.

(Or did you just mean you don't know who she is?)

 

[SpookyFrank]

I don't really have a problem with Capaldi, anything is an improvement on Matt Smith. But i don't really like that he's being written as Smith's curmudgeonly creepy grandad.

They're trying a bit hard to point out that he no longer fancies Clara.