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Do you consider yourself an audiophile?

Are you an audiophile?

  • Yes

    Votes: 31 13.5%

  • No

    Votes: 83 36.1%

  • Audiophiles are deluded bullshitters

    Votes: 116 50.4%
  • Total voters
    230
Poi E said:
I get what you are saying. someone thinks something sounds better and it does, to them.
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My point really is that you are doing the same thing as him, just at a lower price point. You can get an amp for much less than the £150 you paid for yours. Have you done double-blinded tests to make sure yours really does sound better than a £70 amp?
 
teuchter said:
My point really is that you are doing the same thing as him, just at a lower price point. You can get an amp for much less than the £150 you paid for yours. Have you done double-blinded tests to make sure yours really does sound better than a £70 amp?
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I would argue that, from a less absolutist position than yours, the necessity to go to the kind of lengths you're describing diminishes as the number of digits in the price decreases.

And, of course, with the (presumed) diminution in the grandiosity of claims that someone is making for their kit - Poi E's friend is making great claims for his esoteric and expensive setup; beyond saying that his is better than his mate's, it doesn't seem to me that Poi E is making the kind of grand claims that require similarly grand evidence to support them.

But don't let that get in the way of your curmudgeonliness ;)
 
Well, we don't know the grandiosity of Poi E's friend's claims, other than that he refuses to accept Poi E's claims of sonically superior kit, which seems reasonable given the lack of evidence either way.
 
I don't know if audio spectrum analysis needs double blind testing. It is what it is. Admittedly, I have not seen in-depth technical analysis of amps at sub £100 as few publications bother. But you do highlight the essential point which has already been made in this thread. There is a definite principle of diminishing returns in the quality of audio electronics as you head up the price list.

Eta: teuchter is right in that I have not provided evidence of a comparison of the krell with other amps included the behringer. The audio critic published a summary comparison of amps he had tested however it is not in the online back catalogue. I have the old print editions somewhere and will try and find it.
 
Major defects aside, audio spectrum analysis cannot give us an answer as to which of two amps sounds better to its potential owner.
 
Poi E said:
For shame!
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They're actually fairly decent for the price. They're not as good as the Genelecs they're copied from but they're about 1/10th of the price.
I used them for mixing music for a few years and they were OK but I grew out of that and they've been connected to the TV since... They do make good TV speakers. :D
 
I know zip about studio gear and near field monitors but was surprised at their performance in a domestic setting. I don't understand why they are not pitching them at the home hifi crowd.
 
It's wildly expensive, but come on - this retro styled Yamaha amp deserves a tech-phwooar, no?

yamaha-a-s2100-cd-s2100.jpg

http://www.wirefresh.com/yamaha-s21...ates-nail-that-sweet-1970s-silver-retro-look/
 
wouldn't it mean something like the audio signal was totally analogue but the controls are digital? something like that.

edit: didn't realise it was talking about a CD player! i don't have a clue what it means then.
 
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they used to use MOSFET transistors instead of err normal transistors (I guess) in guitar amps where they wanted to simulate valve sound. dunno the technical differences. They definitely never sounded/behaved like valve amps tho (not that you'd want a hifi amp to behave or sound like a guitar amp).
 
Audiophile piece of wood, anyone?

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The most important component of any media room is the room itself. Many audiophiles spend thousands of dollars on components, while acoustic treatment is often overlooked. The AD 2 v.4 is a 13 root QRD diffusor (Quadratic Residue Diffusor), based on the mathematical calculation developed by German Physicist, Manfred Schroder. The AD 2 v.4 does not reflect or absorb sound, but rather it scatters sound in a predetermined 180-degree pattern diffusing direct reflections while maintaining dynamics. The AD 2 v.4 divides the sound waves into 13 parts. The AD 2 v.4 has an effective range between 950hz - 5khz. Core Audio Designs Acoustic Diffusor Collection is an elegant approach to treating a room while preserving artistic integrity. The AD 2 v.4 is designed to integrate within traditional and modern décor.

Coreaudiodesigns.com
 
twentythreedom said:
Audiophile piece of wood, anyone?

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The most important component of any media room is the room itself. Many audiophiles spend thousands of dollars on components, while acoustic treatment is often overlooked. The AD 2 v.4 is a 13 root QRD diffusor (Quadratic Residue Diffusor), based on the mathematical calculation developed by German Physicist, Manfred Schroder. The AD 2 v.4 does not reflect or absorb sound, but rather it scatters sound in a predetermined 180-degree pattern diffusing direct reflections while maintaining dynamics. The AD 2 v.4 divides the sound waves into 13 parts. The AD 2 v.4 has an effective range between 950hz - 5khz. Core Audio Designs Acoustic Diffusor Collection is an elegant approach to treating a room while preserving artistic integrity. The AD 2 v.4 is designed to integrate within traditional and modern décor.

Coreaudiodesigns.com
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difficult to say how this particular one would work without measuring the room, but diffusers def have their place in a studio.
 
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