Did You Vote LibDem?

[kabbes]

 

[butchersapron]

these losers sour grapes threads are very tidieous and also graceless...

There's a reason Labour didn't get a majority and didn't win.

it'd be far better to focaus on that than why a minor party did a deal with the party who were elected by the majority of the country to run it. (all be it not by the majority of urban or by very much nationally) or is democracy only ok when it's a left wing win for those 'approved' parties...

A lot of bluster and bollocks being talked around urban at present and yet what the fuck did any of you blow hards and posturing politico snobs do to encourage voters not to vote in the tories??

you know like the effort you went to to inform the masses of they soon to be foolish decision?

but it's all the fault of people who used their vote to vote in a group which you don't approve of...

This election was labours to lose not the tories to win and boy did they lose it...

but this too is the lib dems fault innit...

nothing to do with corrupt policies or shitty surveillance nannying state actions or indeed the unelected unrepresentative PM with a persecution complex and anger management issues, the aloof and disconnected parliamentarians or their poacher turned game keep stance on everything ... oh no all the lib dems fault...

have a fucking word with yourselves you bunch of sanctimonious knobs...

no matter who you vote for the government gets in,... meet the new boxx same as the old boss...

oh noez the puppet on this hand is nasty where as the puppet on this hand is good... we'll ignore the intentions of the puppeteer eh....

muppets...

I guess you're a tory too now then. Home at last.

 

[cesare]

Nobody got a majority. Nobody won.

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

That's not true.

Louis MacNeice

they got more votes than the other parties what would you call that then captain flip flop...

more equals majority....

in the same way less equals minority....

306 being a greater number than 258... you see how it might appear at first like this being a greater number might be considered a majority (all be it not in parliamentary terms... )

 

[butchersapron]

they got more votes than the other parties what would you call that then captain flip flop...

more equals majority....

in the same way less equals minority....

306 being a greater number than 258... you see how it might appear at first like this being a greater number might be considered a majority (all be it not in parliamentary terms... )

You said:

the party who were elected by the majority of the country to run it.

they weren't voted for by a majority of the electorate never kind the country. You were and are massively wrong.

Might need a dictionary as well.

 

[butchersapron]

Maybe they could have formed a majority govt without the lib-dems then gareth? What do you think? Why couldn't they just do that?

 

[moon23]

Yes I did and i'm proud of it, allready it's seen ID cards scrapped. Labour wrecked any chance of a coalition, and had 13 years to bring in PR which would have ensured Cameron never got power.

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

Nobody got a majority. Nobody won.

nope not buying it...

they might not have got a parlimentary majority which is a fixed point but 306 is more than 258 we've all been counting for long enough to know this to be true...

that's a majority it's more than any other single party and is the will of the people, if you want to wriggle and squirm or console yourself with the notion that because it's not a parliamentary majority this doesn't reflect the will of the people which gave more votes to the tories than it did to the other two then who am I to wrestle you from that delusion however it's still more...

 

[danny la rouge]

That's a completely different point.

If you want to say now that voting percentages are irrelevant then stop trying to hang trev with them.

The point is that Clegg - not me, Clegg - talked of the popular vote his party achieved.

My point is that to vote for a party is to let that party think you have endorsed it. Any Liberal voter has allowed the Liberals to think that their plan - announced in advance - to put the Tories into government has received another endorsement.

 

[cesare]

Yes I did and i'm proud of it, allready it's seen ID cards scrapped. Labour wrecked any chance of a coalition, and had 13 years to bring in PR which would have ensured Cameron never got power.

The tories were already going to do that weren't they? Nothing to do with the LibDems.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

they got more votes than the other parties what would you call that then captain flip flop...

more equals majority....

in the same way less equals minority....

306 being a greater number than 258... you see how it might appear at first like this being a greater number might be considered a majority (all be it not in parliamentary terms... )

Majority: (elections) more than half of the votes.

Majority: more than 50%.

making up new definitions for words doesn't make your posts anymore persuasive.

Louis MacNeice

 

[butchersapron]

nope not buying it...

they might not have got a parlimentary majority which is a fixed point but 306 is more than 258 we've all been counting for long enough to know this to be true...

that's a majority it's more than any other single party and is the will of the people, if you want to wriggle and squirm or console yourself with the notion that because it's not a parliamentary majority this doesn't reflect the will of the people which gave more votes to the tories than it did to the other two then who am I to wrestle you from that delusion however it's still more...

Buy what you want, you're wrong.

 

[danny la rouge]

they might not have got a parlimentary majority which is a fixed point but 306 is more than 258 we've all been counting for long enough to know this to be true...

that's a majority

No, it isn't. It makes them the largest party, but it isn't a majority.

 

[butchersapron]

Yes I did and i'm proud of it, allready it's seen ID cards scrapped.

It was offered by labour to the whig-tories as well. No need to prop up a tory govt to get it. You chose it because you wanted it.

 

[cesare]

nope not buying it...

they might not have got a parlimentary majority which is a fixed point but 306 is more than 258 we've all been counting for long enough to know this to be true...

that's a majority it's more than any other single party and is the will of the people, if you want to wriggle and squirm or console yourself with the notion that because it's not a parliamentary majority this doesn't reflect the will of the people which gave more votes to the tories than it did to the other two then who am I to wrestle you from that delusion however it's still more...

It's the most votes of any single party - but it's not a majority in the Parliamentary sense i.e. 326, nor in the other majority sense of >50% of votes cast.

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

Maybe they could have formed a majority govt without the lib-dems then gareth? What do you think? Why couldn't they just do that?

who?

fucking around with user names again are you, oh how droll, very salient to the points being raised oh yes...

nope sorry you're incessant wriggling on the matter not withstanding if you can tell me how 306 is less than 258 with details then I'm sure we'd all be ready to hear it...

not talking about parliamentary majority I said the majority of the country, by not very much... but still more than the others...

so a full explanation of how 306 is less than 258 if you please...

 

[kabbes]

The point is that Clegg - not me, Clegg - talked of the popular vote his party achieved.

And my point is that by not voting, you increased this popular vote. You also increased the popular vote of the Tory party.

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

It was offered by labour to the whig-tories as well. No need to prop up a tory govt to get it. You chose it because you wanted it.

translation it's all your fault I've got my scapegoat and won't need to feel like some shill for supporting labour a group which is as bad but had better pr about it's workers destruction....

Suck it up shill...

suck it up...

 

[danny la rouge]

And my point is that by not voting, you increased this popular vote. You also increased the popular vote of the Tory party.

I didn't increase any vote. This is what happens when you're immersed in actuaryness.

 

[kabbes]

I didn't increase any vote. This is what happens when you're immersed in actuaryness.

I'm sorry, but you did. That's how numbers work. That's how they work for actuaries but that's how they also work for the little people.

 

[butchersapron]

who?

fucking around with user names again are you, oh how droll, very salient to the points being raised oh yes...

nope sorry you're incessant wriggling on the matter not withstanding if you can tell me how 306 is less than 258 with details then I'm sure we'd all be ready to hear it...

not talking about parliamentary majority I said the majority of the country, by not very much... but still more than the others...

so a full explanation of how 306 is less than 258 if you please...

It wasn't a majority of the country, never mind the electorate. You say you're not talking about a parliamentary majority then go onto immediatley specify that you mean a parliamentary majority (that's what 306 and 258 are - do you understand that?)

You're just..wrong.

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

Majority: (elections) more than half of the votes.

Majority: more than 50%.

making up new definitions for words doesn't make your posts anymore persuasive.

Louis MacNeice

majority more than the others ...

not a new definition if i eat 6 slices of an 8 slice cake I've eaten the majority of the cake fuck me you shills and apologists are straw clutchers...

 

[Diamond]

Majority: (elections) more than half of the votes.

Majority: more than 50%.

making up new definitions for words doesn't make your posts anymore persuasive.

Louis MacNeice

Your argument is weak and pedantic and, in contrast to Garf, far less persuasive.

 

[kabbes]

Garfield, do you realise that the word "majority" is not a synonym for the word "largest"?

 

[butchersapron]

translation it's all your fault I've got my scapegoat and won't need to feel like some shill for supporting labour a group which is as bad but had better pr about it's workers destruction....

Suck it up shill...

suck it up...

Wrong again gareth, i didn't and don't support labour. You're going well today big man.

 

[danny la rouge]

I'm sorry, but you did. That's how numbers work. That's how they work for actuaries but that's how they also work for the little people.

Here is a pile of beans. It has been put there by some people. I don't put my bean on top. Have I increased the pile, or not increased it?

 

[past caring]

A few sunspots around on Planet Garf this afternoon, I see.

 

[kabbes]

majority more than the others ...

not a new definition if i eat 6 slices of an 8 slice cake I've eaten the majority of the cake fuck me you shills and apologists are straw clutchers...

What if you eat 3 slices of an 8 slice cake whilst everybody else eats one slice? Have you eaten the majority of the cake?

 

[danny la rouge]

Garfield, do you realise that the word "majority" is not a synonym for the word "largest"?

No, he doesn't.

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

It wasn't a majority of the country, never mind the electorate. You say you're not talking about a parliamentary majority then go onto immediatley specify that you mean a parliamentary majority (that's what 306 and 258 are - do you understand that?)

You're just..wrong.

you're just an apologist for the labour shill's...

get your house in order son then come back to the table and see if it's popular with the electorate or they've forgiven you for dropping your worker centric approach in favour of big business...