David Icke lecture @ Wembley Arena, October 2012

[Jazzz]

Name one.

Icke is utterly correct in that we invisibly governed by a handful of families via a secret society network and particularly banking, which is in the business of introducing a global totalitarian state. In the process, you can see he has been calling the plot with what would otherwise be extraordinary accuracy:



On these boards I have been posting about how the banks have been running the show for years: of course, I was accused of being antisemitic for that of course.

A few years ago Icke posted this article, where he foretold of imminent US economic collapse: Please don't riot, it's just what they want

That was in March 2009! Absolutely bang on the money, literally.

The swine flu vaccine which Icke warned against has been proved to cause a serious nervous system disorder: Association between Pandremix and Narcolepsy confirmed...

I can go on.

 

[TruXta]

March 2009? Oh right, no one could see that coming, it was only a few months after the melt-down started right? And IIRC Icke maintained that the swine flu vaccine would kill millions.

 

[goldenecitrone]

Icke is utterly correct in that we invisibly governed by a handful of families via a secret society network and particularly banking, which is in the business of introducing a global totalitarian state.

Do the Russians and the Chinese know about this?

 

[butchersapron]

March 2009? Oh right, no one could see that coming, it was only a few months after the melt-down started right? And IIRC Icke maintained that the swine flu vaccine would kill millions.

And in the wrong country

 

[TruXta]

And in the wrong country

WRT the vaccine you mean? I'm amazed you can be bothered to waste memory space on that garbage tbh

 

[Blagsta]

I know, it's just interesting to see his desperate, cowardly wriggling.

Which is why I keep poking him about it.

 

[Blagsta]

Icke is utterly correct in that we invisibly governed by a handful of families via a secret society network and particularly banking, which is in the business of introducing a global totalitarian state.<snip>

Except that isn't true.

 

[Jazzz]

March 2009? Oh right, no one could see that coming, it was only a few months after the melt-down started right? And IIRC Icke maintained that the swine flu vaccine would kill millions.

Maybe, but our rioting (the most extraordinary in my lifetime here) was last year. A serious nervous system disorder is only what the swine flu vaccine has so far proved to do: it may cause other shit, it may help kill you slowly, it might have an effect on sterility, it might have a more adverse effect when combined with a later vaccine. It has been proved to be particularly dangerous and Icke was one of the ones warning precisely for that, and moreover all the arguments he made about how it was rushed through with lack of adequate testing, how policy was rigged in favour of the pharmaceutical giants were absolutely valid.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I only made it 2 minutes through that, but he predicted that a) the US would invent an enemy post-Cold War (Muslim world or China - hedged his bets there), b) there would be more hurricanes in the Gulf of Mexico (this one was a psychic message )

Now, a) was eminently predictable. I predicted it way back in the early 90s - but I didn't hedge my bets and discounted China. That was just the way things appeared to be going, and it only took a rudimentary understanding of the US's need for an enemy post-Cold War to foresee it.

b) was also predicted by scientists as they started to understand climate change.

That's feeble, Jazzz.

 

[Blagsta]

Maybe, but our rioting (the most extraordinary in my lifetime here) was last year. A serious nervous system disorder is only what the swine flu vaccine has so far proved to do: it may cause other shit, it may help kill you slowly, it might have an effect on sterility, it might have a more adverse effect when combined with a later vaccine. It has been proved to be particularly dangerous and Icke was one of the ones warning precisely for that, and moreover all the arguments he made about how it was rushed through with lack of adequate testing, how policy was rigged in favour of the pharmaceutical giants were absolutely valid.

Predicting riots under a tory government? The man must be some kind of prophet!

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

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I can go on.

Please do, the other stuffs not really standing up to even the most basic scrutiny is it.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Predicting riots under a tory government? The man must be some kind of prophet!

Him and Nick Clegg.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

The swine flu vaccine which Icke warned against has been proved to cause a serious nervous system disorder: Association between Pandremix and Narcolepsy confirmed...

Of course, that report indicating an extremely small increase in the incidence in Finland and Sweden amongst people with an existing genetic risk factor also says that the vaccine was responsible for greatly reducing the incidence of swine flu, and deaths caused by it, amongst those who took it.

Since of course vaccines don't work and therefore that must be a lie, I imagine you have discarded the whole thing.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

The swine flu vaccine which Icke warned against has been proved to cause a serious nervous system disorder: Association between Pandremix and Narcolepsy confirmed...

Do you even read the links you post up?

 

[Wilf]

Jazzz - at the start of your clip, Icke says something along the lines of 'psychic messages said there would be hurricanes..'. What's a psychic message? How does it work?

 

[redsquirrel]

I've never read them, so it's bit hard to give an opinion, not that I have any obligation to in any case.

You pathetic fuck.
See this is why I don't quite agree with Spiney when he says

I'm not entirely comfortable with people trying to claim that Jazzz is antisemitic. I don't think he is. Icke is though and the problem I have with Jazzz and his ilk is that they swallow his bullshit far too uncritically (which is ironic really because the sheeple apparently swallow the ill defined elite's bullshit too uncritically). In defending Icke they're making excuses for antisemitism and making it easier for even more dangerous antisemites to disguise their bigotry. But that's not antisemitism, it's just idiocy, albeit potentially dangerous idiocy. Personally I think it's a defence mechanism - he's invested far too much time and energy in conspiraloonery to even begin to contemplate the possibility that the sheeple of urban75 might be right. And so he's willing to commit the kind of crimes against logic and evidence we've all become accustomed to.

If you're so desperate to turn away from anti-semitism that you refuse to see the Protocols as anti-semitic and claim that holocaust denial is not anti-semitic then I think you've crossed a line from just being uncritical to being anti-semitic.

 

[SpineyNorman]

See this is why I don't quite agree with Spiney when he says

If you're so desperate to turn away from anti-semitism that you refuse to see the Protocols as anti-semitic and claim that holocaust denial is not anti-semitic then I think you've crossed a line from just being uncritical to being anti-semitic.

I sort of half agree but do you honestly not see the difference? One's an unthinking moron, the other is knowingly prejudiced.

 

[redsquirrel]

Don't get me wrong, I agree with I lot of your post and think there are some people who are just uncritical (dangerous) idiots but I think that there is a point when they become so desperate to try and square the circle that they end up crossing a line. For me personally Jazzz has passed that point.

I mean I don't think Jazzz is going to attack his nearest synagogue or racially abuse individuals etc, rather I think his defence of this crap has gone so far that his actions are now clearly supporting anti-semitic individuals and positions.

 

[Jazzz]

I only made it 2 minutes through that, but he predicted that a) the US would invent an enemy post-Cold War (Muslim world or China - hedged his bets there), b) there would be more hurricanes in the Gulf of Mexico (this one was a psychic message )

Now, a) was eminently predictable. I predicted it way back in the early 90s - but I didn't hedge my bets and discounted China. That was just the way things appeared to be going, and it only took a rudimentary understanding of the US's need for an enemy post-Cold War to foresee it.

b) was also predicted by scientists as they started to understand climate change.

That's feeble, Jazzz.

I hadn't put up the correct video: post now edited.

 

[Jazzz]

You pathetic fuck.

Have you read them redsquirrel? I've had little discourse with you, so am happy to attempt a reasoned discussion, although you might lay off the abuse.

Being Jewish, I am indeed unlikely to attack synagogues.

 

[Jazzz]

="FridgeMagnet, post: 10888294, member: 43"]Of course, that report indicating an extremely small increase in the incidence in Finland and Sweden amongst people with an existing genetic risk factor also says that the vaccine was responsible for greatly reducing the incidence of swine flu, and deaths caused by it, amongst those who took it.

Hardly a small increase.

50,000 Germans now have the condition:
http://www.welt.de/gesundheit/article13796373/Rund-50-000-Deutsche-leiden-unter-Schlafanfaellen.html

"All the evidence points to the swine flu vaccine being responsible for the 30 to 40 times increase in narcolepsy among young people in Germany." http://www.welt.de/gesundheit/article13796373/Rund-50-000-Deutsche-leiden-unter-Schlafanfaellen.html

The Finnish study identified at least a nine-fold increase in risk IIRC and the link unequivocal.

These are not "extremely small increases"

 

[Jack Black]

I see that jazzzzz ignored my post about him being David icke. Which leads me to conclude that he must be David icke.

The similarities are there if you choose to seek the truth. Both are attention seeking fuckwits. I understand why it has come to me to reveal this truth... We can smell our own

Either that or she's a lonely obese trucker by the name of jasmine...

 

[Blagsta]

Have you read them redsquirrel? I've had little discourse with you, so am happy to attempt a reasoned discussion, although you might lay off the abuse.

Being Jewish, I am indeed unlikely to attack synagogues.

Being Jewish, I'd have thought you'd have some opinion on the Protocols too.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

This is very simple - if you place a value judgment on where someone comes from, that is racism. There is nothing 'foolish' about not doing so: it is a necessary condition not to exhibit racism.

So I ask you: does it matter where someone comes from?

You are spectacularly missing the point; please read my last post again this time with a little more care (ask yourself where does it differ from your original formulation and then why).

Louis MacNeice

 

[Louis MacNeice]

I'll answer that. It matters if someone thinks that white people come from Mars. That matters rather a lot.

It also matters if someone is pushing the ideas of a person who thinks that.

Thanks LBJ; it is so obvious you have to wonder why Jazz is so unwilling to engage with it?

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[Jazzz]

You are spectacularly missing the point; please read my last post again this time with a little more care (ask yourself where does it differ from your original formulation and then why).

Louis MacNeice

You ignored my question.

Does it matter where someone comes from?
Do you place a value judgment on where someone comes from?

 

[Kanda]

Being Jewish.

You're one of THEM!!!

 

[butchersapron]

You ignored my question.

Does it matter where someone comes from?
Do you place a value judgment on where someone comes from?

Icke does. According to you that's racism. You big Icke up. Get it?

 

[two sheds]

You ignored my question.

Does it matter where someone comes from?
Do you place a value judgment on where someone comes from?

Will you answer a couple of questions from a relatively impartial observer, Jazzz? I'd tend to see your world view as not much stranger than that expressed in the Daily Mail of a morning, and probably less dangerous to humanity.

So, I'm confused.

Is the answer to your question 'from Mars'? If it is then I'd say yes it does matter where someone *says* they come from. Much more so than if someone said they come from Skegness or Delhi.

I'm also confused as to why you just haven't simply said 'the Protocols have been shown to be a forgery'. What is the problem with that?

 

[southside]

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