David Cameron: socialists have no sense of humour
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billy connolly
Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
Comedians with eyes: Andrew Dice Clay. So what?
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
The clue is in the fact that under his user-name it says "Location: Leyton", you twat.
isvicthere?
a.k.a. floppybollocks
Edited coz others have already pwned Lletsa off the thread. 
isvicthere?
a.k.a. floppybollocks
And: his dad used to be a scriptwriter for..... Kenny Everett.
ymu
Niall Ferguson's deep-cover sock-puppet
"Alternative" comedy is just comedy that doesn't rely on giving entire demographic groups a good kicking. It was the breath of fresh air after decades of Chalky White and mother-in-law jokes.
Jimmy Carr is a throwback to cuntier times - although some of his political stuff on the 10pm show has been decent. I think his cunty stuff is just because he's too lazy to think of an original angle.
Michael McIntyre is just anodyne shite. Not cunty, not controversial, just safe people-watching territory from a position of slighty sneering superiority.
The 'alternative' label is still useful today - my father-in-law used it the other day to describe comedians who just swear a lot and distinguish them from the type of comedy that he finds funny. Interestingly, as a 1970s immigrant from the Caribbean, he felt Bernard Manning had more comedy value.
But it doesn't really mean anything today. Alternative comedy, for me, is political - overtly or otherwise. There were very few comedians doing anything very political in the 2000s. Things are looking up a bit now. Here's hoping, anyway. The coalition are comedy gold.
Jimmy Carr is a throwback to cuntier times - although some of his political stuff on the 10pm show has been decent. I think his cunty stuff is just because he's too lazy to think of an original angle.
Michael McIntyre is just anodyne shite. Not cunty, not controversial, just safe people-watching territory from a position of slighty sneering superiority.
The 'alternative' label is still useful today - my father-in-law used it the other day to describe comedians who just swear a lot and distinguish them from the type of comedy that he finds funny. Interestingly, as a 1970s immigrant from the Caribbean, he felt Bernard Manning had more comedy value.
But it doesn't really mean anything today. Alternative comedy, for me, is political - overtly or otherwise. There were very few comedians doing anything very political in the 2000s. Things are looking up a bit now. Here's hoping, anyway. The coalition are comedy gold.
Plumdaff
joy in people
Hipsters are usually apolitical, or if political, of a fairly right wing but "liberal" stripe. Might give a fuck about AV, but won't give a fuck about council cuts. From my anecdotal experience of leafleting round South and East London, they are the least likely group to take an anti-cuts leaflet. Posh looking city types are more likely to do so! (give a shit about libraries and adventure playgrounds for their kids)
Completely different to any genuine left-wing still existing in this country.
Completely different to any genuine left-wing still existing in this country.
ymu
Niall Ferguson's deep-cover sock-puppet
Yes. Into leftie politics because it's 'nice', but completely unaware of why it actually matters.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
yep
Proper Tidy
Arsed
Spot on.
past caring
The Cathars were right
Tbh, we can end the thread here - with today's results any socialist (or communist, libertarian communist, anarchist, anti-Leninist Marxist, whatever) is fucking laughing, surely?
MellySingsDoom
Decimated by the shrapnel of his rhetoric
Disco Dave: "Never mind Clegg, you lost this one, but I still respect you. Now get down on your knees and shine my shoes, oik!" <crows with laughter>
Clegg: "Yes...master (whimpers)
Disco Dave: "Clegg, I don't hear you laughing. Are you a smelly unwashed socialist?"
Clegg: "Yes...master (whimpers)
Disco Dave: "Clegg, I don't hear you laughing. Are you a smelly unwashed socialist?"
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
go get ya fuckin shinebox
MellySingsDoom
Decimated by the shrapnel of his rhetoric
<several million cultural ref points to DC>
ymu
Niall Ferguson's deep-cover sock-puppet
Just stumbled across this:
I think it's right, up to "people compare themselves not to the population as a whole but to the people they know". That's it. All the explanation you need. The rest is bollocks - they were never lefties in the first place.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Jimmy Carr is what you get if you neuter Jerry Sadowitz and stop him doing magic tricks, graft a knowing smirk onto his face and give him a haircut. He's piss-weak Jerry Sadowitz for the over-sensitive middle-classes.
His delivery leaves me cold. His material could be as funny as fuck, but the way he delivers it makes me want to lever his eyeballs out with a spoon.
Plumdaff
joy in people
The article is very interesting. Rather than ageing lefties, I was meaning young hipsters. Many of the hipsters I'm talking about are in their 20s and 30s. It's just that they have no experience of, or understanding of, a world where you might struggle to afford university or a media internship, rent/buy and live in trendy areas of cities, wear expensive and disposeable clothing, go on pricey holidays and have to give a shit what your local hospital or school is like. But they might well care about AV, or enviromentalism of a status-y type, and they might vociferously go on about corporations (all whilst being extremely label-conscious). Their entire experience is of a very narrow social clique, and they are usually apolitical - even if self-describing as left - and precisely the type New Labour fell over themselves to cater for. I hope I don't sound too patronising or judgemental and I'm sure there are exceptions, but that's the perception I have of a lot of them.
They wouldn't see an anti-cuts campaign as having much to do with them.
Ageing lefties are a different creature. It's not, I'd argue a natural thing to become more right-wing as you get older. But I can think of friends who have been successful and find it hard to comprehend that their own interests it no longer equate to the struggles of the common man (I'm thinking in particular of a dinner party where an old school friend became very angry at my assertion she was in an incredibly small fortunate minority to be facing paying inheritance tax). Not an unusual trajectory I'd imagine.
They wouldn't see an anti-cuts campaign as having much to do with them.
Ageing lefties are a different creature. It's not, I'd argue a natural thing to become more right-wing as you get older. But I can think of friends who have been successful and find it hard to comprehend that their own interests it no longer equate to the struggles of the common man (I'm thinking in particular of a dinner party where an old school friend became very angry at my assertion she was in an incredibly small fortunate minority to be facing paying inheritance tax). Not an unusual trajectory I'd imagine.
ymu
Niall Ferguson's deep-cover sock-puppet
Yeah. It was a glib generalisation. It's not that none of them learn better, it's just that it doesn't occur to a lot of them that there is anything to learn.
I don't often look at what people put under their user names.
Stop wiping his arse. He's perfectly capable of doing it himself.
Edited coz others have already pwned Lletsa off the thread.
Don't say pwned. Even thirteen year-olds who do it are pricks.
You can't win though. I've done my utmost to remain utterly unsuccessful all my adult life and I still lost my faith in the possibility of a better world.
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